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cold water extraction - for a few months i have been working with "coldwater" extraction, where the vine mater is soaked in acidified water for a day or two. this tea is then reduced and the acidity canceled with bicarbonate. the result has some notable differences from the typical 3x3 brew. the cold extract doesn't go cloudy when it’s refrigerated, which leads to the second difference. the cold extract is milder tasting and easier on the stomach, the purge can still happen, but the body load is much easier. on to the third difference, its more potent when cold brewed. using the same vine stock (McKenna’s red) a regular brew needed to include about 20 - 30 grams of vine in each cup. the cold brew is very potent at 10 grams, with a much livelier pleasant feel to it. if anyone is interested in the details i am working on a tek, pm me.
throat singing - if you are experienced with the vine and other enthrones you will probably agree there is a defiant synesthesia feed back with singing and sound. in my experience the aya is the most responsive to this singing feed back, with singing i have turned nonvisionary, uncomfortable experiences into profound ones. if you work with the vine i highly recommend learning to throat sing. it is an extremely powerful shamanic tool. what you do is generate a basic tone and using your mouth and sinuses you shift the tone slightly, then the two slightly different tones interact and trough harmonic dissonance (sound wave interaction) a third tone emerges. I've been throat singing for about 4 years, and in my relatively short time with the vine i have spontaneously learned two additional styles of throat singing, wow! if you didg or chant the acoustical physics of throat singing can be applied to these practices to dramatic effect.
beta carboline comparison between vines - I am working on a side project trying to understand more about how the vine works. my hypothesis has to do with the ratios of harmine, harmaline, and tetrahydroharmine, and the experiential difference between the yellow, red and white strains. i have found a fair amount of info on the pharmacological analysis of brew samples with a breakdown of content of DMT and the specific beta-carbolines. the scientist gathering the data can go into great detail about tribe, language, location, ect. but they don’t record which adjuncts went into the brew let alone what strain of vine was used. so im looking for that kind of data as well as reports from people using pharmahuasca (specific beta carboline ratio used) . if you've got any leads please share.
i hope this spawns some interesting discusion. be well,
apollo
dancing with aya down the hallways of always
throat singing
throat singing - if you are experienced with the vine and other enthrones you will probably agree there is a defiant synesthesia feed back with singing and sound. in my experience the aya is the most responsive to this singing feed back, with singing i have turned nonvisionary, uncomfortable experiences into profound ones. if you work with the vine i highly recommend learning to throat sing. it is an extremely powerful shamanic tool. what you do is generate a basic tone and using your mouth and sinuses you shift the tone slightly, then the two slightly different tones interact and trough harmonic dissonance (sound wave interaction) a third tone emerges. I've been throat singing for about 4 years, and in my relatively short time with the vine i have spontaneously learned two additional styles of throat singing, wow! if you didg or chant the acoustical physics of throat singing can be applied to these practices to dramatic effect.
beta carboline comparison between vines - I am working on a side project trying to understand more about how the vine works. my hypothesis has to do with the ratios of harmine, harmaline, and tetrahydroharmine, and the experiential difference between the yellow, red and white strains. i have found a fair amount of info on the pharmacological analysis of brew samples with a breakdown of content of DMT and the specific beta-carbolines. the scientist gathering the data can go into great detail about tribe, language, location, ect. but they don’t record which adjuncts went into the brew let alone what strain of vine was used. so im looking for that kind of data as well as reports from people using pharmahuasca (specific beta carboline ratio used) . if you've got any leads please share.
i hope this spawns some interesting discusion. be well,
apollo
dancing with aya down the hallways of always
throat singing
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Re: ahoy, new to the tribe and i've got a few ideas to share.
Wed, August 26, 2009 - 3:45 PMHmm, I always soak my vines in acidified water for a day or two before I brew, usually cook in that water after this.