http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#d295ba6a-6281-4216-9f3d-0774709c02e5 i can't even come up with words for how big of a role she plays!!! archetypal matriarchal and patriarchal energies are up so strongly right now. and the mother gaia is healing us as much as we are healing her...it's so beautifully interconnected. i am both excited and overwhelmed by the work ahead in iquitos! Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:03:33 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#d295ba6a-6281-4216-9f3d-0774709c02e5 Silene 2008-06-25T14:03:33Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#fcc33e17-ac2f-4786-a6a0-3b10c327c866 Though in touch with the feminine, I always new Shel was a man. He's got that peacemaker thing that warriors who've seen the uselessness of war have. It's quiet, but quick to make amends, not from apology so much as from the knowledge of the pointlessness of aggression. He's a bit of a hero for me because of that. Isn't it fun analyzing Shel? I think so. The Shel way, or the way of Shel... Is he man or beast or woman, or maybe just some intelligent ten year old who can really stay in character when inhabiting one of his various on-line persona's. Until there's a live sighting we may never know! HAVE YOU SEEN SHEL..???.. If so, then let's hear some proof that he's the good looking gentle giant he appears to be........... :) Wed, 25 Jun 2008 03:15:04 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#fcc33e17-ac2f-4786-a6a0-3b10c327c866 CG 2008-06-25T03:15:04Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#2c9f8a32-2934-403d-9cac-409fc474e717 actually i thought shel was a woman, too up until just recently! Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:23:54 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#2c9f8a32-2934-403d-9cac-409fc474e717 $item.owner.firstName 2008-06-25T01:23:54Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#da487548-e021-4d0a-aa58-7abf7cef074f Shel said: I'm a male feminist. ------------------------------- Hey Shel, maybe that explains why I thought you were a woman this whole time. I've seen you posting for months, and your yin energy is so overwhelming I honestly believed you were a lady. Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:17:10 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#da487548-e021-4d0a-aa58-7abf7cef074f Nick 2008-06-24T08:17:10Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#88facdcc-c63e-4139-8122-770ce28328e9 :) oh sweet rebecca! :) even your cyber presence makes me smile :) i think :: crunch (eggshells) crunch :: The planet Earth Mother was impregnated with Great Spirit Life this created the beings we call our brothers and sisters, winged, two legged, four legged, scaled etc with the rise of human population came the rise of ego centered activity, and fear. primarily this war action has been carried out by men however it has been supported by women - even if mostly in apathy. Balance must be struck. Love is not a Female quality. However as bearers of life, as holy grails in the Physical as well as Spiritual sense (men being only capable of the spiritual aspect here) It is more natural for us to attend to needs in a tender fashion! We must ALL ,men and women ,Cherish the feminine aspects of ourselves, and PACHAMAMA!!!!! We are on the very brink ! We must Love our mother, as the giver of life, body, food, home, medicine (Aya), etc etc etc ... And equally Padre, y todos los hermanos y hermanas!!!!! TODOS!!!! Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:46:42 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#88facdcc-c63e-4139-8122-770ce28328e9 $item.owner.firstName 2008-06-23T16:46:42Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#93dd0245-2a4c-4a7e-bbb9-906ddf952029 gosh i'm sensitive! (blush) Mon, 23 Jun 2008 04:51:13 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#93dd0245-2a4c-4a7e-bbb9-906ddf952029 $item.owner.firstName 2008-06-23T04:51:13Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#5775622d-903c-41bb-9ef1-fee24bb991df Ditto. Just expanding this way and that on the ideas. Thanks. Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:23:58 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#5775622d-903c-41bb-9ef1-fee24bb991df Pluma del Tigre 2008-06-23T02:23:58Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#eaec544c-69de-4a6c-8767-5de4deaf9a82 sorry i didnt mean for you to feel like you had to say sorry,lol @ mua! Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:54:30 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#eaec544c-69de-4a6c-8767-5de4deaf9a82 $item.owner.firstName 2008-06-22T21:54:30Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#c93a3fef-9a7f-4d04-8e67-c05cfe17477d yes, when i said "as we rise to be vessels of the feminine undertandings of healing, compassion, beauty and nourishment, i feel like ayahuasca works through us all to reawaken and replenish these very neccessary qualities within ourselves. " i meant men and women. sorry if that came accross as exclusive, as that was not my intention at all. Sun, 22 Jun 2008 00:16:02 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#c93a3fef-9a7f-4d04-8e67-c05cfe17477d $item.owner.firstName 2008-06-22T00:16:02Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#7ca02eef-4ccc-4686-bb69-9a94199a6ee9 Thanks, Juliana. I hope you can experience it well when the time is right for you. Shel has a point, too, about "exists in all of us". Also, on occasion and in certain cultures, Ayahuasca appears as a male spirit, although She was entirely female to me. I really think Ayahuasca is about connecting with any and all human beings equally, regardless of gender. It may be that human females may react to the feminine 'presentation' or aspect of Ayahuasca more strongly or more viscerally, themselves, than men would generally - a sister, mother, daughter connection. But, men have those connections, as well, of course. Blessings and Light! Sat, 21 Jun 2008 23:08:26 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#7ca02eef-4ccc-4686-bb69-9a94199a6ee9 Pluma del Tigre 2008-06-21T23:08:26Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#d7c930ba-c57f-400a-b100-0a74892fab69 rebecca its so true but isnt this a bit exclusive? "to me, i think she plays a strong role with women especially" i mean she has changed around my whole life as a man, hell i am a feminest, the cycle of birth and death exists in all of us constantly, i am probabley just jealous of the womans babymaking ability.....again...lol Sat, 21 Jun 2008 22:08:17 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#d7c930ba-c57f-400a-b100-0a74892fab69 $item.owner.firstName 2008-06-21T22:08:17Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#4d0ea09d-9110-416b-93d9-a89bc8f7d98d to me, i think she plays a strong role with women especially, or atleast the ones who are open to her lessons. because according to many traditions, life and birth all begin within the woman, ayahuasca, being the "vine of death" works within the realms that transform death back into rebirth again. as we rise to be vessels of the feminine undertandings of healing, compassion, beauty and nourishment, i feel like ayahuasca works through us all to reawaken and replenish these very neccessary qualities within ourselves. it's oh so very neccesary right now. Sat, 21 Jun 2008 21:54:02 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#4d0ea09d-9110-416b-93d9-a89bc8f7d98d $item.owner.firstName 2008-06-21T21:54:02Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#00b6dd8e-1391-4542-a9e1-ede2d798b1bd YEAH! ditto and etc! Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:31:37 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#00b6dd8e-1391-4542-a9e1-ede2d798b1bd $item.owner.firstName 2008-06-21T20:31:37Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#3e3601ad-e96a-45e9-90e0-679d9f31c5a0 Pluma, I love how you articulate your experience with aya. Very poetic and heartfelt. I have not yet had the honour of the experience myself yet, but your post makes me ever more looking forward to that day when it happens. Thank you, and happy Solstice! Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:18:54 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#3e3601ad-e96a-45e9-90e0-679d9f31c5a0 Water Lily 2008-06-21T20:18:54Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#f6d946b5-d48c-44bc-8254-053c666ee44b oh such an important role, any yin energy is very good for the situation at hand, and aya has with her serpent of light that extremely effective balancing property with yang. i am a male feminist by the way. Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:42:38 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#f6d946b5-d48c-44bc-8254-053c666ee44b $item.owner.firstName 2008-06-12T22:42:38Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#6b8e1ba2-7de2-4a85-8971-4f37f18766bf rebecca, I've always loved to travel and see Earth landscapes, especially loving the land. I've also always loved trees - especially pine forests - and they have always seemed alive to me. When I went to the Amazon, though, it was the first time I had a sense of being surrounded by this truly immense mass of living matter, stretching literally hundreds, even thousands of miles in every direction. DNA encoded, living life forms, green and in constant motion, growing and dying. When I took Ayahuasca, I was introduced to the Female Spirit of that plant, and perhaps of all plants. She was certainly a powerful being. She was certainly in control in her own realm. She was also, amazingly!, interested, even passionate about my personal wellbeing, my growth, my understanding as a single human being. As I am not qualified in any way to be singled out by such a being for such attentions, I make the deduction that She is Interested in ALL of us and would guide, teach, re-assure, correct, and even love us all. I'm not trying to sound religious here, just making an observation of what I experienced (the essence of shamanic endeavor). Does that imply that She is making efforts beyond the various personal experiences of her within the context of Ayahuasca ceremonies? I can't say, but I do know that the ceremony and actual ingestion of the entheogen is only the first stage of the Ayahuasca experience as it continues to echo and influence us in our lives afterwards. If that is true for one person, then perhaps it is true that the Spirit of Ayahuasca can reach out into the natural world in its entire scale and effect some influence for change. I can only hope that She can and does. Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:03:44 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#6b8e1ba2-7de2-4a85-8971-4f37f18766bf Pluma del Tigre 2008-06-12T04:03:44Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#79f30794-a7c5-4b67-bbf6-3f6999bf4a59 listen to omar rodriguez-lopez and lydia lunches album i think you might like it. "we gotta get back to the goddess" that's all I have to say for now. Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:46:50 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#79f30794-a7c5-4b67-bbf6-3f6999bf4a59 $item.owner.firstName 2008-06-12T03:46:50Z http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#592ad55b-4123-4ce2-90be-296338aa4991 i've been curious about this. many traditions carry the belief that this time in history is the time in which the feminine/woman/goddess energy is in the proccess of being restored on the planet.. since ayahuasca is the mother plant and is considered a woman by many, how do you think she might be playing a role in this planetary change? Thu, 12 Jun 2008 03:39:46 GMT http://ayahuasca.tribe.net/thread/78d5b4b9-41e3-4042-884c-516a8aae3463#592ad55b-4123-4ce2-90be-296338aa4991 $item.owner.firstName 2008-06-12T03:39:46Z