News Media portrayal of Ayahuasca - hippies and other shit.

topic posted Sat, March 28, 2009 - 6:59 AM by  keith
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I just wanted to see if anyone else saw the GMA piece the other day on ABC News. It's cool that it's in the news, but the few times they mention it in the mainstream media, they always preface it with a few shots of stoned out of their mind hippies dancing around, etc., etc., which in my opinion really colors the piece in a negative way. And except in possibly a very cursory way, what the hell do stoned-out hippies dancing around have to do with Ayahuasca ceremonies performed in a proper setting? Just curious to get people's opinions...
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  • CG
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    It's sort of interesting if you think about the people producing it. Why they do what they do? They obviously choose imagery they think people will connect with. They have a bias, or preexisting point of view, and I'm sure they consider the general public"s response, how they imagine it being received, and then craft a piece that's safe for them. Careful to not be coming out on the "wrong" side of the issue. Appearing properly smart or whatever.

    I think Good Morning America is all about Good Morning America,
    and the stories they tell are only a vehicle for keeping them alive as a profitable entity.

    I think they have an image of themselves and who they are to the public, and that their presentations are all about maintaining that place. I believe it has very little to do with the events they report on. Which basically means they don't give a shit about ayahuasca at all.
    Good Morning America is their big story.
    • CG, I think you are absolutely right. Good Morning America is not about news or education or debate; it is about entertainment.

      Also, I think very few people actually *watch* the program. I would guess that for most people it is simply background noise as they do other things -- get ready for work, get the kids off to school, clean the house.

      My theory is that, since we are basically social animals, like baboons, the drone of human voices in the background makes people feel secure. If someone who is used to having the television on in the morning shuts it off, the house suddenly feels empty, lonely, threatening. Having the television on is a sort of addiction.

      Steve
      singingtotheplants.blogspot.com/
    • Well said. I actually used to work in Network News, and one of the reasons I quit was what I felt was a lack of journalistic integrity, i.e. ratings was paramount to all else.
      • CG
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        .....and hippies free dancing with flowers in the mud are always fun to watch... :0)

        .....those silly kids!

        They (GMA) havn't got the slightest clue about how deep the ocean really is.
        • Hippies free dancing with flowers in the mud can indeed be entertaining =)

          Recently I have seen a few shows that had featured Aya. Although the portrayal of the medicine hasn't been very accurate if at all in most of them, it still feels good to know that the subject of Aya is being brought up.

          I think awareness of Aya is a huge step towards change within an individual. It can make one think, and then ignite a spark of curiosity. If any viewer turns out to be genuinely interested in the subject of Aya for whatever reason, maybe the individual will look up the actual facts and find the way to the medicine.

          I agree that GMA haven't got the slightest clue about how deep the ocean really is. But I secretly hope that at least one person that has seen this recording, just might begin to wonder about the true depth of the ocean.

          The three shows I can think of right now that have featured Aya, are 'Mark and Olly' on the travel channel, Nip/Tuck--episode Budi Sabri, and the cartoon featured on Adult Swim; the Venture Bros.,--episode 'viva los muertos'.

          Venture Bros. was the most entertaining I think. Just because they featured some hard core purge sounds lol Although this episode has very dark humor, I couldn't stop laughing when I heard the sounds of purge.
          • Dan
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            i recently saw an episode of Anthony Bourdain's "no reservations" (one of the few shows i watch), where he does a piece on peruvien food and he goes on an aya excursion. Being a food and travel show, they didn't show his ceremony but he was clear on the fact that he was seeking a spiritual journey through the ancient sacrament with an shaman of the amazon.

            The other "talking heads" that we see in the media feeding us mostly fear will alway's put their stereotype on ethneogens and psychedelics..... we wouldn't want people "turning on" and start thinking independently.

            We'd have too many hippies dancing around in the mud : - )
            • CG
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              I appreciate what you've reminded me of Maya and Dan. Funny or biased though they may be, for some sincere seeker it might be just the nudge they need to continue tracking it down.

              Well said, and it's a nice way to see it, both kind and encouraging....
              • I think the dancing hippie may have been Allen Ginsberg. Like it or not, him spinning around dancing like a hippie was for most Americans their first introduction to Ayahuasca, or Yage his letters with William S. Burroughs described it. Unfortunately for the legitimacy of contemporary ayahuasca use, at the time they were gonzo journalists searching for a drug that would give them telepathy. Their ridiculous antics and flagrant drug abuse were well documented, and just as Reefer Madness and similarly inaccurate schlock still flavor the modern dialogue regarding marijuana, so too do we have to deal with the lingering aftereffects of the excesses of the flower children and their poetry and prose.

                www.kerouac.com/images/pos...Dancing.jpg
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                • Dan
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                  I think due to the internet and many different sources of information that people have access to these day's (to re-iterate Maya's thoughts) that anyone who'm might have the slightest interest due to some silly thing they see on television or youtube......it might lead them to a google search, or erowid, or a Mckenna book, or the aya forum ,or the very well done and infomative documentaries that are out there. BTW i just saw a very good one that i downloaded off the net called "other worlds"....if you havent seen it i would highly reccomend it.
                  I dont even really want to get into "The Media" topic......i think the more imortant thing here is that anything that might spark the interest in just one person that might lead them to investigate a little closer and then mabey experience aya's healing power ....it could effect two more people, and then the tree continues to grow.
                  The psychedic scene in the sixties BLEW UP so quickly that it had many negative effects on legitamate scientific research and then ofcourse legal status.It's almost a good thing that this tree seems to be growing at a more responsable (for lack of a better word) level.
                • no need to rag on ginsburg and burroughs. they went down there at a time when there was very little information available. They were artists who decided to break some boundaries and expand their minds. burroughs struggled with drug addiction as many people who use ayahuasca have. their experiences were only documented by themselves, stories of trips alone to the amazon, a worthwhile read due to the skills of the writer. it also might be true, depending on your location and connection to indigenous people of the amazon, that you might not have had your own experiences with ayahuasca if it were not for these writers piquing the public interest, because someone has to go there first and make the mistakes that you will later tut tut about after benefitting from their experiences. They can show hippies dancing on acid in the news, but i can assure you that films of daimistas in bow ties and crowns or shamans spitting phlegm into their palms and examining it are not going to win people over either.
  • The news is buzzing about santo dime in Oregon getting the nod from a low-level judge to legally use their sacrament... well, sacramentally!

    The news reports I watched seemed to alternate emphasizing that it was a DRUG... and that it was a syncretic CHRISTIAN religion... as if that made it somehow balanced and permissible, not like those other "scary" native churches (they showed one clip and talked about the peyote church with that kind of a tone). This from the Yahoo.com news on their homepage a few days ago.
  • "They can show hippies dancing on acid in the news, but i can assure you that films of daimistas in bow ties and crowns or shamans spitting phlegm into their palms and examining it are not going to win people over either."
    That may be true, but I can assure you that there are plenty of other elements in an Ayahuasca ceremony that could be shown that would more accurately portray the tone and intent of ayahuasca ceremonies in a positive and realistic manner. I just don't like the things the media associates it with.
    • CG
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      I don't like them either Keith. It doesn't come anywhere near to representing the experience.

      "They can show hippies dancing on acid in the news, but i can assure you that films of daimistas in bow ties and crowns or shamans spitting phlegm into their palms and examining it are not going to win people over either."

      This is an interesting statement. Some kind of more accurate representation of what the ayahuasca experience is for people seems to be the discussion, but I hesitate to say that the dress or image can really offer that. Weather you look at the British explorer purging, the shaman singing and praying, or the Daimistas dancing in their uniforms, your only seeing the physical setting and culture surrounding their specific way of engaging the aya experience.

      Here's an anonymous comment from Singing to the Plants, Steve's wonderful bog site, about the Santo Daime legalization that speaks to what I'm thinking about pretty well.

      "I understand that it's interesting looked at from a distance, as a movement, a Church, or as part of the entheogenic culture, but when your in it, it's the life inside us being felt deeply and in a profoundly personal manner that's the core of the experience."

      "I'm suggesting that the heart or core of the issue of the legalization of the Santo Daime isn't about the US Govt., or even about the SD Church. It's the transformational and deeply powerful interior experiences of the people who attend, and our feeling that it's our sacred right to have those experiences that is the real story".

      "In my opinion legalization is an effect of the commitment and powerful faith that it's our personal right to behold and be present in the sacred moment. The strength of that commitment and faith in that right is why I feel it's getting negotiated out in the world".

      However you dress to attend, it's the interior transformation that the images can't really show you, and can only be experienced by participating.

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