Blue Morpho experiences?

topic posted Wed, May 24, 2006 - 7:22 PM by  Pluma del Tigre
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Hi all,

New "tribe member" here.

I'm heading to Peru in September. Anyone have any dealings good or bad with Hamilton Souther's Blue Morpho group that you'd be willing to share?

Thanks!
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Pluma del Tigre
Austin
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  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Thu, May 25, 2006 - 9:05 AM
    I drank with Hamilton twice and I was really impressed by his healing abilities. I would drink with him again!
    • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

      Sun, May 28, 2006 - 9:10 PM
      Thanks for the feedback. It is always difficult to get an idea of folks over emails from another continent. Hamilton and his helper, Jeremy, seem ok, but his replies to me were a bit stiff and it felt like I almost had to bother them to get them to talk about their philosophy and things beyond just tourism level items. I'm probably reading too much into it, though.
      • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

        Tue, May 30, 2006 - 2:19 PM
        How much do they charge?
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          Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

          Fri, June 16, 2006 - 10:59 PM
          Hi, I just booked a shamanic tour with Blue Morpho after I read the article on Ayahuasca in NG. I was deeply touched by the experience of Kira and I immediatelly felt drawn towards Peru. I will be there beginning of September and despite being worried (scared sh*tless to say at least) about having to confront my own demons, but I know I have to deal with it to go on with my life. Luckily for me, I found somebody very special that is going to come with me and I really hope that this experience will be a new start for the both of us - together.
          • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

            Sun, June 18, 2006 - 12:47 AM
            Hey Sir H,

            How much $ was your shamanic tour? How many days? How many ceremonies? What's included?

            Am curious to know how much these guys charge, and if there's been any change in price since the NG article.

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              Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

              Mon, June 19, 2006 - 1:46 PM
              The price for a nine day / 8 night / food and 5 ceremonies included is $ 1,195.00 (if I am not mistaken). I am equally excited about the ceremonies and the opportunity to see the amazon jungle. And most importantly, I am acompagnied by a very important person in my life which makes the whole tour extremely special for me. Ayahuasca was new to me until I read the article at NG. So, I am exploring completely new territory for me.
              • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

                Tue, June 20, 2006 - 10:14 AM
                I've actually decided to work with SpiritQuest instead of Blue M. this time. I'll be down there in mid September.

                This is new to me, too, but I have been studying and reading everything I can about Ayahuasca for over six years.
                SirH, I'd reccommend to you that you read as much as you can before you go. Read Jeremy Narby's "Cosmic Serpents", and if you can find a copy, Benny Shanon's "Antipodes of the Mind" is a comprehensive study. There are many other great books, including Jimmy Weiskopf's "Yaje", and of course, lots of articles through Erowid, MAPS, etc. on the web.

                I think it is best to go with realistic ideas of it and not be sidetracked by naive or incorrect assumptions.

                Blessings and Light,
                Pluma del Tigre
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                  Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

                  Tue, June 20, 2006 - 12:03 PM
                  Thanks for your advice. As a matter of fact, I am reading up on Ayahuasca, Shamanism and Soul Retrieval as fast as I can. I for sure won't run into it blindly. Ayahuasca is part of a process that allows me to follow spiritual path that I think is right for me. I hope you have a great trip and an awesome experience.

                  SH
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                I have a hard time relating to the enormous pile of money being required for enlightenment. That really strikes me as phony. In a land where the average monthly salary is $100, and I'm talking about a 60 hour work-week, I find the huge sums being given to these "curanderos" to be outrageous. This is nothing more than greed and self promotion, huge egos and commercialization of an ancient path. All of this is nothing more than relieving naive Gringoes of their dollars. Why don't you try to connect with something a bit more authentic? I mean really, if you just check around while you're there, do the math and figure out what this operation is pulling in. Better yet, ask the locals who work there what kind of money they make, and I think you will find that they are still in the local- translated as long hours, short pay- economy. Better to stay home and find a good televangelist.
                • Blue Morpho

                  Mon, October 13, 2008 - 2:10 PM
                  I am Hamilton Souther, owner of Blue Morpho. Over the last months many commentaries about Blue Morpho have appeared on the tribe forums. I have stayed out of the discussions as a way of supporting open communication about our business and practices. Due to inaccurate criticism by others who have never been to Blue Morpho, I have decided to respond, to offer the community of tribe the opportunity to know more about our practice as a center and work with Ayahuasca.

                  In 2001, at the age of 23, I was called to an apprenticeship in the jungle and found myself traveling into a very remote area of the Peruvian Amazon in search of Ayahuasca. I participated in my first ceremonies and knew that I would stay to continue apprenticeship. I built a modest jungle house, with the help of some locals, of palm thatch and plank wood floors along a tributary 24 hours travel from Iquitos. My house became part of a community of eight families. Upriver from our house there were no other permanent inhabitants. The area had only a small river into and out of it. There were no roads and no modern services. We were a five hour canoe paddle from the nearest store.

                  I began apprenticeship with a backpack and a machete independent of any other financial support. I was then 23 years old, living on my own in the middle of the forest, apprenticing in a traditional manner with a love and commitment to the medicine in my heart.

                  I realized that apprenticeship would take years and I needed a way to support myself while studying. I formed Blue Morpho with a local guide who specialized in jungle adventure trekking. I hoped that Blue Morpho would allow me to live a frontier life in the jungle. My dream was to be able to support myself enough to be able to continue learning and living in the jungle. I lived for apprenticeship and the ability to continue participating in diets and ceremonies.

                  After our first year I knew that Blue Morpho would become a center dedicated solely to shamanism. At the same time I ended apprenticeship with the first shamans I had worked with and began training under the tutelage of Don Alberto Torres Davila. Don Alberto is a Maestro Ayahuasquero, Palero and Sanangero who has over 3,000 ceremonies of experience. He started apprenticing at the age of 8 under the tutelage of his grandfather. He came from a lineage of shamans that extended back to the Lamas people before the arrival of the Spanish. He had not worked with westerners before agreeing to work with us. He had worked as a traditional healer treating people from local communities in and around his home town.

                  After the first three months of apprenticeship with Alberto, I was accepted by Julio Llerena Pinedo (Maestro Ayahuascquero, Palero and Sanangero) as his apprentice as well. He became my grandfather maestro taking me under his wing as he had done for Alberto 30 years earlier. The two of them guided my apprenticeship, as they had been guided, taking me through diets and ceremonies. We entered into pacts of loyalty in the medicine to work together and to defend each other for life.

                  Apprenticeship was the hardest thing I ever imagined. I dedicated my life to it and to the medicine. I came to an understanding that you have to be willing to die for it. The tests of apprenticeship led me through the darkest fears and greatest terrors as well as physical illnesses and injury including being hospitalized on three occasions. Nothing mattered in comparison to being in ceremony and learning how to guide and direct the medicine. The medicine was the most beautiful thing I had ever experienced. My maestros guided me with very little verbal discussion about Ayahuasca and apprenticeship. The doctor spirits taught me directly through vision and realization. Ayahausca coursed through every part of my being transforming my mind, body and spirit.

                  I completed my apprenticeship and was granted the rank of Maestro by Julio in December 2004. Julio was 86 at the time and I was the last shaman to be granted the rank of Maestro by him. I had been given the right to drink and practice medicine on my own. I felt ecstatic to have lived through apprenticeship but I knew that my path was only beginning.

                  During my apprenticeship, I ran Blue Morpho where small groups came to our camp to participate in ceremonies and/or diet. We were a very small organization with only five of us working. I did the airport pickups, hotel reservations, tour organization, purchasing, administration, translating, guiding, boat driving, and camp managing. Blue Morpho was my passion as it allowed me to continue to participate in the medicine.

                  We had worked seven days a week for the first three years and still were not sure if Blue Morpho would survive. Then little by little Blue Morpho grew. After becoming a Maestro I began to see a future for us and the possibility that groups would grow in size. I decided that we needed to move location closer to Iquitos to decrease the travel time to and from camp and to be in an area that had access to modern support. I asked the spirits where I would find a piece of land suitable to our needs and they lead me to our current camp location on the Iquitos Nauta road. In September of 2005 we built the initial phase of our second camp and in November of the same year we began hosting groups. I designed the camp, buildings and layout including the architecture and construction. I built the center out of the love I had for the medicine and the guests who would experience medicine there. I gave the first camp to the local family that worked with us in gratitude for their faithful support through our early years.

                  In March of 2006 an article was published about the author Kira Salak’s personally transformational experiences at Blue Morpho in the National Geographic Adventure Magazine. www.nationalgeographic.com/adve....html Soon thereafter, people responded to the article expressing interest in Blue Morpho. We were presented with a challenge that guests wanted to participate in our workshops, not so much interested in the practice of Amazonian shamanism but rather for results. They wanted to transform. They wanted to be positively changed. They wanted to learn and grow. We developed a style that made Ayahusaca and Amazonian shamanism accessible and understandable to those with little or no shamanistic background or experience. Our guests began showing results as profound as the ones stated in the article. They left decades of depression behind in five ceremonies. They released every imaginable trauma or horror from their pasts. They were freed from the internal suffering of guilt and doubt. They transcended and met the infinite. They experienced, firsthand, divinity and unconditional divine love.

                  We continued to expand our camp as demand for workshop spaces grew. We created a paradise in the jungle of gardens filled with flowering plants, extremely comfortable rustic and simple accommodations, and trained and organized a staff dedicated to supporting our work with each guest. Over the last two and a half years we have evolved and refined our presentation of our work. We are now a staff of full time and part time employees of over twenty.

                  The positive feedback from our guests is overwhelming and demonstrates the true impact it has on them. Each new group represents a journey into unconditional love through the guidance of the shamans and the phenomenal expression of Ayahuasca. Don Alberto and I continue to preside over all of our ceremonies.

                  At Blue Morpho we have worked to offer a space that is more than just participating in ceremonies. The transformational work with Ayahuasca can be the most intense experience of your life which may include violent movements of your body, chaotic mental spaces, interaction with many different kinds of spirits, huge swings of emotions or very dark visions. Considering how intense it can be, our method of working with Ayahausca has taken into account our guests’ various needs and how to meet those needs during their experience. We created a huge support system at the camp to make sure the experience is safe and that you are well taken care of.

                  A 9 day workshop includes:

                  Shamanism

                  • 5 Ayahausca ceremonies: Presided over by Maestros, apprentices and trained support staff
                  • Post ceremony discussions of individual experiences with Questions & Answers
                  • Question & Answers sessions with the Maestros
                  • Preparation for Ayahuasca Ceremony presentation
                  • Collection of Plants for the preparation of Ayahuasca
                  • Cooking Ayahuasca: You help prepare the Ayahausca that will be used during the week
                  • Medicinal Plant Walk
                  • Guided Meditations
                  • Camalonga Dream Journey
                  • Incan Fire Ceremony
                  • Blue Morpho Workbook
                  • Preparation for leaving Blue Morpho presentation

                  Jungle Excursions Activities

                  • Guided Hikes
                  • Self guided trail system
                  • Bird Watching
                  • River fishing
                  • Itaya River Swim
                  • Itaya River Boat Ride

                  Camp Layout and Accommodations

                  • Main House: Dining and Main Living Area
                  • Ceremonial House: All ceremonies and Hammock Lounge (during the day)
                  • 5 Bungalows: Sleeps 6 with private bedrooms with shared bathroom and living room
                  • Lake House: Guided Meditations, Yoga and Arts & Crafts
                  • Lake Gazebo
                  • Swimming lake
                  • Meditation Bungalows
                  • Apprentice House
                  • Staff Bungalow
                  • Staff House
                  • Brick walking paths between buildings
                  • Stunningly colorful gardens
                  • Trail System: Self guided hiking trail system

                  Meals and Services

                  • Varied generous menu offering our standard, vegetarian or vegan cuisine
                  • 24 hour coffee, tea and infusions
                  • Purified bottled drinking water
                  • Laundry Service
                  • Transportation from Iquitos to the camp and back
                  • Airport Pickup
                  • Hotel reservations
                  • Personal guided booking process

                  Safety

                  • Maestros on call 24 hours a day
                  • Apprentices on call 24 hours a day
                  • Registered Nurse at camp
                  • Two emergency vehicles
                  • Emergency satellite communication system
                  • Anti-Venom
                  • Extensive supply of western medicine for minor or travel related illnesses
                  • Fire Prevention and Safety Plan
                  • Staff certified and trained in emergency safety
                  • Prescreening of guests to make sure they are medically approved for the experience

                  Security:

                  • 24 hours security staff
                  • Individual lock boxes for valuables in private accommodation

                  9 Day Shamanic Workshop Sample Itinerary:


                  Meet at the Blue Morpho Office in Iquitos on Monday morning at 10:00 A.M.

                  Depart Iquitos at 11:00 A.M. to begin the one and a half hour bus ride to the Shamanic Center.

                  1st day / Monday
                  Arrival at Blue Morpho Shamanism Center
                  Afternoon - Medicinal plant walk
                  Evening - Orientation meeting, Camalonga Dream Journey (optional)
                  Meals: Lunch, Dinner

                  Arrive at the Blue Morpho Jungle Camp around 12:30 P.M. After settling into your private accommodations, go on a short walk around the area to familiarize yourself with your surroundings and return for lunch. After lunch at 3:30 P.M. go on group jungle walk to collect medicinal plant admixtures for the ayahuasca preparation and identify medicinal plants lead by Master Shamans Alberto Torres Davila and Hamilton Souther. Attend a presentation of the shamanic diet and preparation of diet plants, and then a group orientation meeting before dinner. Learn about the Blue Morpho history. Dinner will be served for those not participating in the Camalonga Dream Journey. The Camalonga Dream Journey requires an evening fast. After a savory dinner continue to get to know the other guests. Drink Camalonga a sacred teacher plant that teaches through dream journeys. For dieters, drink diet plants followed by an informal evening question and answer session with Hamilton Souther.

                  2nd day / Tuesday
                  Morning - Preparation of Ayahuasca, Discussion of Ayahuasca, Q&A with Don Alberto Torres Davila
                  Afternoon - Continuation of Q&A
                  Evening - Sacred Ayahuasca Ceremony
                  Meals: Breakfast, Lunch

                  Awake early to a hot cup of tea or coffee, and then begin the preparation of Ayahuasca at 7:30 A.M. Participate in the preparation of Ayahuasca (Sacred Visionary Teacher Plant) that will be used in our ceremonial work. Connect with its spirit through the beginning stages of preparation. After breakfast the apprentices will hold a meeting to prepare you for the ceremony of ayahuasca. After the meeting, meet in small groups with Don Alberto Torrres Davila for questions and answers. After lunch your last meal for the day, due to a mandatory evening fast before the Ayahuasca ceremony, help in the final stages of cooking Ayahuasca. At 8:00 P.M. begin the Ceremony of Ayahuasca with Master Shaman Curandero Alberto Torres Davila. Listen to sacred magical singing, Icaros, as the shamans conduct this sacred ceremony. After the ceremony adjourn to your bed and rest.

                  3rd day / Wednesday
                  Morning - Discussion of Ceremony, Guided Hike
                  Afternoon - Q&A with Hamilton Souther, Guided Meditation
                  Evening - Sacred Ayahuasca Ceremony
                  Meals: Breakfast, Lunch

                  After a nourishing breakfast we will have a discussion of the first ceremony. Share in the experience of others and the subsequent question and answer session. Continue your exploration of these diverse places connecting to Spirit. Before lunch take a guided hike through the immense forest. The afternoon activities begin with a Q&A session with Hamilton Souther. Afterward, prepare for the second ceremony by resting or participating in a guided meditation. As darkness falls prepare for our second ceremony.

                  4th day / Thursday
                  Morning - Discussion of Ceremony
                  Afternoon - Itaya River Swim and fishing
                  Meals: Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner

                  Work with apprentices to further understand the previous night’s ceremony. Hear the experiences of other guests and share your own. In the afternoon visit the Itaya River, a tributary of the Amazon and swim in the refreshing waters. If you would like, try catching some fish. Enjoy an evening meal, a welcome change after the previous nights' fasts.

                  5th day / Friday
                  Morning - Rest & Relax, Jungle hike medicinal plant identification
                  Afternoon – Q&A with Don Alberto Torres Davila, Guided Shamanic Meditation Journey,
                  Evening - Sacred Ayahuasca Ceremony
                  Meals: Breakfast, Lunch

                  Enjoy breakfast after a night of deep rest. Relax in the morning, and then participate in a jungle hike where the medicinal plants of the forest are explained by one of our apprentices. In the afternoon there will be a Q&A with Maestro Alberto Torres Davila and then a guided Shamanic Meditation Journey. Prepare for our 3rd Ayahuasca ceremony. See how much you have learned over the last 5 days.

                  6th day / Saturday
                  Morning - Discussion of different shamanic practices, Jungle walk
                  Afternoon – Q&A with Hamilton Souther Rest & Relax
                  Evening - Ayahuasca Ceremony
                  Meals: Breakfast, Lunch

                  After breakfast we will begin with a discussion of different kinds of shamanic practices. After the meeting go on a walk to visit the trees used in the Ayahuasca. Commune with the spirits of the trees. In the afternoon there will be Q&A with Hamilton Souther where we will expand deeper into the realms of universal spirituality As darkness falls, enter the amazing wonders and worlds of Ayahuasca in our fourth ceremony.

                  7th day / Sunday
                  Morning - Q&A with Hamilton Souther
                  Afternoon - Excursion Itaya river boat ride
                  Evening - Inka Fire Ceremony
                  Meals: Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner

                  Discuss the previous night’s ceremony or any other question that have come up during the previous 4 ceremonies. This afternoon explore more of the jungle on the Itaya river boat excursion. Look for rare species of flora and fauna. After dinner participate in an Inka fire ceremony to invoke the spirit world and offer our intents to Spirit.

                  8th Day / Monday
                  Morning - Final Meeting
                  Afternoon – Q&A with Hamilton Souther Rest & Relax
                  Evening - Sacred Ayahuasca Ceremony
                  Meals: Breakfast, Lunch

                  Apprentices will prepare the group for their return home. Learn how to bring the spirit world into your everyday lives. In the afternoon prepare for our last Ayahuasca ceremony through our final discussion of universal spirituality and shamanism. This ceremony will bring closure to our work. The shamans will offer individual venteadas (blessings and protection) to each guest. Bask in the glory and infiniteness of Spirit cleansed and transformed.

                  9th Day / Tuesday
                  Return to Iquitos
                  Morning - Pack and prepare for return, Group photos and photos with shamans, San Juan Arts and Crafts Market Excursion
                  Meals: Breakfast

                  In the morning, bathe to release the last effects of the previous night’s ceremony. After breakfast, pack and prepare for return. Take group photos and individual photos with the shamans. Depart the Shamanism Center at 10:30 a.m. On the way back to Iquitos stop to see and purchase local jungle arts and craft at the San Juan Arts and Crafts Market. Arrive in Iquitos at 12:30 p.m. renewed after an amazing 9 days with Blue Morpho. Busses leave guests at the Hotel Dorado.

                  Blue Morpho as a Business:

                  Blue Morpho was birthed out of Ayahuasca and the practice of Ayahuasca medicine. The principles of the medicine teach responsibility, love, acceptance and honesty and we have extended those principles into how we interact as a business. We stand behind our professionalism and commitment to integrity in the practice of medicine.

                  • The majority of our staff are locals
                  • Pay above standard wages including overtime
                  • Offer part time employees the same benefits as full time employees even though it is not obligated by law.
                  • Provide health care
                  • Double salary for Christmas and Independence day holiday
                  • Pay Severance
                  • Offer interest free loans to employees
                  • Provide transportation to and from work

                  Blue Morpho Charity:

                  Blue Morpho has offered charity from our inception. We have worked with local communities to donate

                  • Clothing
                  • School Supplies
                  • Medical Supplies
                  • Dental Hygiene Supplies
                  • Treat locals free of charge

                  Guest Feedback:

                  We have spent the last seven years making Blue Morpho a very professional operation. We have looked into the needs of our guests and have responded developing a camp environment and style that matches those needs. The positive feedback from our guests stands out. They have said that Blue Morpho

                  • Is like a second home
                  • That it saved their lives
                  • That they were no longer depressed
                  • That they were physically healed
                  • That they got a lot more out of it than expected
                  • That it showed them divinity and unconditional love
                  • That it brought them forgiveness and healing of past traumas
                  • That they found trust
                  • That all their needs were met
                  • That they felt safe and well taken care of

                  It is so beautiful to see someone shine after ceremonies finally relieved of their pain and suffering. It is fully rewarding to see someone that finally comes back to into their body and opens their heart having been through extreme traumas. It brings tears to the eyes to see someone finally freed of a life plagued with depression. Satisfaction is felt witnessing someone find “their life purpose” after realizations in a ceremony. These are all common results in each of our workshops. I have personally guided hundreds of people through these kinds of transformations. They learn that shamanism is not about ideologies, dogmas and belief systems but rather personal experience. It is about an exploration of love and life. They explore their essence of being alive.

                  We opened our hearts to our guests and freely shared the medicine. We share what it is and how it works, what we have learned and how we use it. Ayahuasca is not just drinking a tea made of different plants. The drinking of the plants opens the door to a whole world of spirits and medicine.

                  Our growth was dictated by demand. More and more people wanted to come and experience Ayahuasca with us. We built and grew to continue to share our medicine with the people that asked to come.

                  Many have decided to return to further their exploration of Ayahausca and themselves. They found Blue Morpho to be a place that was safe, where they could participate in this kind of shamanism and get out of the experience what they needed. They come back because they found that the experience at Blue Morpho is unique and not like any experience they ever had in their lives. It is a personal joy to get to see them again and continue to guide them through Ayahausca. It has allowed us to develop friendship with our guests. The larger groups have allowed our guests to develop friendship among themselves too. They have formed their own online forums staying touch and supporting each other through the transitional stages of change in the weeks and months after our groups.

                  Blue Morpho was born out of the medicine and is our love and passion. We have dedicated our lives to Amazonian shamanism and living the medicine. We hold over 100 ceremonies a year and I drink in every one. We live in the medicine and share it with those that come to our center. Blue Morpho is the living of my dream that started seven years ago with a vision to apprentice in Ayahuasca medicine.

                  We stand behind our professionalism and successes. We offer authentic, deep, and powerful personal experiences in an environment that is safe and comfortable. We do everything we can to make sure that each guest leaves Blue Morpho safe, sane and positively transformed through our work.

                  Sincerely,

                  Hamilton Souther

                • Re: Phony Baloney Shamanism....Big Money, Big Spirit

                  Sun, November 30, 2008 - 5:43 PM
                  I think that if you are doing the math to figure out what an operation is pulling in, you are not ready to do an ayahuasca journey.

                  In America salaries are just as disparate. People charge what others are willing to pay. If the experience is worth the money to you, pay it, but don't dwell on it. That's not the way to go into any experience.
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    Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Sat, June 24, 2006 - 8:37 PM
    I was there thius year. I recommend it highly. Hamilton and others are very much supporting and giving and in command of what they are doing; you will feel very comfortable. I also suggest reading up and studying about Ayahuasca; also meditation or similar might be helpful to some.
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      Money, Money, Money, Money

      Mon, June 9, 2008 - 4:03 AM
      Yeah, I guess Hamilton is quite rich by now. Of course, he is supportive, wouldn't you be? Gee whiz, if you were giving me 1000 plus dollars week, I would be "supportive" too. Did you have the opportunity to ask his workers what kind of salary they made. I bet they aren't receiving the bounty as much as the Gringoes are. I suppose they tell you that the cost is to help the locals. Ask Blue Morpho if you can see the bank account. There is the rub.
  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Mon, May 7, 2007 - 5:55 PM
    BlueMorpho Tours, is in my opinion, not worth the investment. I know many people have toured with them and praise them highly. I am very happy for those people and in no way wish for my opinion to take away from theirs. I urge you to make up your own mind if you are considering booking a tour with BlueMorpho. The following is part of my experience with them and the opinions expressed are solely my own:

    When I booked my tour with BlueMorpho, their website advertised and still advertises at this writing-"Jungle hikes
    Birding
    Sport fishing (piranha fishing)
    River Swimming
    Boat Excursion and Chakra Therapy, Theory, Balancing
    Energy Work, Guided Shamanic Journeys and Soul Retrieval
    and Walking trails offer our guests a great opportunity of seeing a variety of exotic and colorful wildlife during their stay."

    When I was there, none of those activities were offered and a staff member told my group there were "no animals around here". Also, the website states, "Hamilton Souther (owner) leads the shamanic tours." When I was there, Hamilton passed off duties to apprentices, one in particular who, although very nice, seemed completely overwhelmed by the responsibility. This apprentice told my group--over 30 of us--that the Ayahausca we'd drink during the ceremonies would cleanse us through vomit and/or bowel movements, but not to worry because "The Spirits always ensure there is not a line for the bathrooms." When I was there, there was a long line all night. We were told we could call the Shamans mentally and they would come help us during the ceremonies. I tried that. No one came. We were told Hamilton was always available to talk to/counsel us at all times. But we only saw him at meal time and ceremony time. Even while preparing the Ayahausca, he wandered off. I expected that preparation to be treated with reverence and respect. In my opinion, it was not. We were given a "10 minute one on one" session with him in which an apprentice was present. My session was about 5 minutes long during which Hamilton appeared disinterested. He didn't make consistent eye contact, either. After our first ceremony he gathered us in a room to talk about our experience then walked out and left us with his apprentice once again.

    My group was not counseled or given much information about what to expect drinking Ayahausca for the first time. In my opinion, we were unprepared. When I was there, Hamilton and his staff seemed very tired and over worked. I asked an apprentice where all the activities were that they advertised and was told, "They all happen naturally during the ceremonies." I spoke to others in my group who were new to BlueMorpho and they were unhappy like me.

    I left the tour early--as did at least two others I know of. When I got back to the States, I asked for my money back through the credit card company I paid with. BlueMorho refused for several months telling the credit card company that they would have "negotiated" with me had I gone to them directly. I contacted them and offered to pay for half even though I believed they should refund my money in full. They refused to refund half the money. I implied I would write the Peruvian government and tell them all about my experience with them and then they said would "consult their attorney and accountant" and try to "figure out" a way to refund my money. What Hamilton figured out was a "return of monies" contract he wanted me to sign, have notarized and sent back to him. That contract stated that he would indeed refund my money in full, but I would never be able to speak about him or BlueMorpho not only publicly, but privately as well. I didn't sign.

    Although he did apologize once, Hamilton never once acknowledged any of my specific complaints (there were more than I've listed here) even though I quoted him, his staff, and his website when explaining why I wanted a refund. He kept saying, "Amazonian Shamanism is not for everybody." I kept telling him I had no problem with Amazonian Shamanism, but with his tour specifically. I acknowledged that it must be hard to receive negative feedback and told him I sincerely hoped my group was the first and last to experience anything negative. He still never addressed my complaints which included safety issues and fire hazards.

    I wish him and BlueMorpho the best. I hope everyone who chooses to go there is happy with their tour. I, however, cannot recommend them in any way. When I went last September, I paid $685.00 and they required a $100.00 deposit for a 6 day tour. They now charge $1640.00 and require a $820.00 deposit and only offer 9 day tours.

    Best of luck and much love.
    • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

      Mon, May 7, 2007 - 9:34 PM
      Iananna,

      I had a strange vibe from Hamilton when I was trying to decide who to work with last fall. His contact person was all happy about what a "good time I'd have" and would not answer deeper questions about their philosophy, etc. When I insisted on contact from Souther, he emailed a very terse and rather pompous announcement of his philosophy and it seemed like I was bothering him. I have heard from others that he seems dedicated to his shamanism, but he's a very young and ego-centered guy who is probably over his head in terms of running a touring business. He does not seem to have the depth of experience or character to actually oversee and guide such a deep, personal, and difficult enterprise.

      I ended up working with Howard Lawler at SpiritQuest, and I had the experience you were looking and hoping for. I would highly recommend you work with him and his colleagues for your next trip. They are dedicated, caring, respectful of the vine and those who partake, and generally have the right attitudes for this kind of deep and difficult work. It was the right choice, although I almost didn't make it. Howard's email responses to me were great - deep insights into their philosophy, approach, and practical matters of the travel and environment. We did go on many tours to visit tribes, see Ayahuasca growing wild and collect specimens for use, and we all were a part of the preparations process, etc.

      You can check out my entire story and pics at this site if you like:
      www.jaguarfeather.com/greenmagic

      Best of luck with your BlueMorpho situation, and thanks for sharing your warnings about it. It's hard enough to find authentic practitioners down there without that kind of thing.

      Blessings and Light!
      • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

        Tue, May 8, 2007 - 9:01 PM
        Iananna, I am really glad you posted. I had a really disappointing experience with Blue Morpho and Hamilton Souther. Their website and the NG article were entirely misleading. During my 1-on-1, I specifically asked him about power animals, the visions I had during my experience, and soul retrieval. He told me that "his lineage" didn't believe power animals meant specific things and could therefore not help me interpret my visions. (Note: In my research, Amazonian shamanism constantly refers to the meanings of specific power animals.) And what "lineage," the lineage of Santa Cruz? I also met the girl who wrote the NG article, which explained everything. She was glassy-eyed and hung onto his every word. It did not appear that he was so inclined, but the whole scenario sure explained the article. If I misinterpreted this exchange, my apologies, but these are my throughts. In my opinion, Blue Morpho was a complete waste of money. Just another enterprising-American cashing in on the local tourism of an aching economy in order to pad his bank account. He was not kind, nor humble, nor reverent. He was late to the ceremony, allowed a woman to take flash pictures of him while we were meditating, and belched into the ayahuasca cups several times. I was disgusted and left early, along with several others. The last thing I expected from a "shaman" was narcissism.
        On a kinder note, Don Alberto was the exact opposite of Hamilton. If you speak Spanish, you may have a good experience with D.A., though I'm not sure having to deal with Hamilton would be worth it. I tried to find someone to translate several times, but the staff seems to disappear between meals. Finally, I was able to exchange a few words through one of the other patrons. Don Alberto seemed like a true, dedicated shaman. I can only imagine he teamed up with Hamilton in order to provide for his family. Their price has more than doubled since I went and I feel horrible if anyone has to pay that kind of money for an experience like mine. I've never felt like such a sucker in my life.
        ~Blessings
    • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

      Tue, May 8, 2007 - 9:02 PM
      Iananna, I am really glad you posted. I had a really disappointing experience with Blue Morpho and Hamilton Souther. Their website and the NG article were entirely misleading. During my 1-on-1, I specifically asked him about power animals, the visions I had during my experience, and soul retrieval. He told me that "his lineage" didn't believe power animals meant specific things and could therefore not help me interpret my visions. (Note: In my research, Amazonian shamanism constantly refers to the meanings of specific power animals.) And what "lineage," the lineage of Santa Cruz? I also met the girl who wrote the NG article, which explained everything. She was glassy-eyed and hung onto his every word. It did not appear that he was so inclined, but the whole scenario sure explained the article. If I misinterpreted this exchange, my apologies, but these are my throughts. In my opinion, Blue Morpho was a complete waste of money. Just another enterprising-American cashing in on the local tourism of an aching economy in order to pad his bank account. He was not kind, nor humble, nor reverent. He was late to the ceremony, allowed a woman to take flash pictures of him while we were meditating, and belched into the ayahuasca cups several times. I was disgusted and left early, along with several others. The last thing I expected from a "shaman" was narcissism.
      On a kinder note, Don Alberto was the exact opposite of Hamilton. If you speak Spanish, you may have a good experience with D.A., though I'm not sure having to deal with Hamilton would be worth it. I tried to find someone to translate several times, but the staff seems to disappear between meals. Finally, I was able to exchange a few words through one of the other patrons. Don Alberto seemed like a true, dedicated shaman. I can only imagine he teamed up with Hamilton in order to provide for his family. Their price has more than doubled since I went and I feel horrible if anyone has to pay that kind of money for an experience like mine. I've never felt like such a sucker in my life.
      ~Blessings
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      Sat, May 12, 2007 - 7:31 AM
      The following is my opinion on Blue Morpho Tours:

      I have attenended Blue Morpho tours trip last year. It was the best vacation i took in my life. It was absolutely life changing for me.

      I have found the apprentices and Hamilton to be very caring and helpful. Hamilton gave me and my group his undivided attention many times. He always had time for each and every guest. After meals he would sit with my group in the common room and speak to us about his findings and opinions on everything we asked many times, and without hesitation. As a matter of fact, he was awesome. There were quite a few nights when he stayed up with various guests all night long when they needed him. Still, the next day he stayed with the group as much as he could in the common area speaking to us about whatever we asked him about. In my opinion, he is very close to Spririt. He also communicates with Spirit very well. But whether that makes him psychic or not, i don't know. When i needed personal attention from Hamilton, i asked for it and I got it without any trouble. He was a very caring and alert during my counsel.

      All extra activities that are listed on their website held up too. My group has experienced hiking through the jungle, fishing for piranha, a trip to the river beach not too far from the camp, and a kick ass view boat ride on the river. Eluco was the one that took us everywhere. He is awesome! Totally sweet and a very, very, very knowledgable guy when it comes to the jungle.

      As far as the animals go, i'm sorry, but i have a really hard time believing that anyone has said that there are no animals around. Camp is in the jungle, i assure you animals live there. Eluco is the master in finding wildlife and he shows a lot of awesome things during the jungle hikes.

      I haven't seen any promises about hot water being available at the camp. I actually emailed Blue Morpho before the trip asking what accomidations were available. I was told there was only cold water. But to be honest, after an Ayahuasca ceremony and a hot day, cold shower felt awesome.

      I have tried to compare Blue Morpho's pricing to other two places in Peru. These places weren't even camps. They said i had to get a hotel on my own and pay them $5,000 for 3 ceremonies within a 7 day period. Considering the NG Adventure article by Kira S. and all the testimonials i decided upon Blue Morpho Tours.

      I am very happy i chose them. I have never felt so at home anywhere. Blue Morpho has a very caring, loving and helpful environment. Hamilton, the Apprentices and Blue Morpho staff were nothing short of awesome. Not once, anyone in my group was denied help at any point or time. Not even at 3 a.m. or all through the night.

      The apprentices were very helpful, never overwhelmed which was very comforting. They gave my group a very long talk on what to expect during the Ayahuasca ceremony to be sure we were prepared for it best as possible. The next morning after the ceremony, we had meetings after breakfast to discuss our experiences, address our concerns and ask any questions we may have.

      During the ceremony Hamilton and the apprentices were very helpful. They will do everything they can to make sure you're alright. I did have a very hard time one night. Hamilton was helping another guest who was having a hard time also at the moment i needed him. So i decided to try what the apprentices suggested, which was to call on him 3 times in my mind. You know what? He came! Yes, i saw Hamilton in two places at once. I even heard him speak to me. Call it what you will, but i am telling you that for me, this worked. After i have done that, the great discomfort i was feeling and trying to fight for a half hour, almost instantly has left me.

      Prior to the trip i didn't know what to expect. I was going somewhere i have never been to before without any native language skills. Blue Morpho has made me feel at home every day i was there. As i have previously stated, the experience there was life chaning for me in a very positive way. It also inpired me to get a tattoo. Everyone in my group was as happy at their experience as i was. They still feel the same way. We all still keep in touch and we're very greatful to have met eachother and have attended the Blue Morpho trip. I was so happy at my last experience, i am going back this year. Actually half of my group is returning this year.

      Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and i absolutely understand that and respect that. What i have written is my own personal opinion. To anyone that is going to Blue Morpho i hope you have just as an awesome time as i did. I give Blue Morpho Tours 5 out of 5 stars for their service.

      Love and Light to all of you!


    • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

      Sat, May 12, 2007 - 2:19 PM
      I was at Blue Morpho in October 2006 and will be returning next week for 2 consecutive trips. After reading this posting, I would like to offer my experience of being at Blue Morpho and doing healing work with Hamilton Souther because it is very different than what is recounted here.

      First, as others have indicated in their postings, there is a distinct difference between being a tourist and working on spiritual growth and healing. If someone is only interested in hiking, birding, boat excursions, etc. (which is a purely justified wish from a tourist perspective) then my recommendation is to book some kind of nature trek tour where you will get all of those things. At Blue Morpho, however, these activities are secondary to its primary purpose: namely shamanic healing through the use of ayahuasca. I did go on hikes while at Blue Morpho and a boat excursion, and fishing and river swimming were available which some of the other guests participated in, but that was not the primary reason why I was there.

      Going to Blue Morpho is not so much about experiencing the external (i.e., tourist activities) but about doing deep internal spiritual work. And, because of this, I concur with Hamilton when he says that Peruvian shamanism is not for everyone. Not everyone is going to like drinking ayahuasca and experiencing the effects of it, namely entering the spiritual realm of consciousness. As the article in National Geographic states, guests need to be prepared for an extended internal experience deep into their unconscious. When I tell people why I go to Blue Morpho, many of them shudder at the thought and say they could never do it. For me, drinking ayahuasca was scary as hell; at times, I was crying before entering a ceremony because of the difficult healing work that I knew was waiting for me. Even now, with my upcoming trips drawing near, I am nervous about what lies in store for me. But herein lies the heart of Blue Morpho; not seeing monkeys or swimming in a river, it's facing one's internal, unconscious demons and unearthing them in the hope and intent of living a fuller, healthier and more productive life.

      Moreover, because everyone's experience on ayahuasca is so unique and individual (because everyone's unconscious realm is unique and individual), there is only so much preparation that Hamilton and the apprentices can give before you take it. Every time I drank ayahuasca I had a different experience and I know that the next 10 ceremonies I'll be participating in will all be different. And so, Iananna, you weren't given a lot of information precisely because no one but you would truly find out what drinking ayahuasca would be like for you. While I was at Blue Morpho, some of the guests were experiencing ceremonies that included euphoria, bliss and laughter, while other guests were dealing with the legacy of abuse from their childhoods, losses in relationships and host of other difficult emotions. The staff at Blue Morpho could not predict what it would be like for each of these guests, and quite honestly, they shouldn't. With my PhD in psychology, I'll say that it's the same with psychotherapy: the therapist should not predict or tell the client what their experience will be or should be; it's up to the client to have and determine their own experience.

      With respect to the comment that Hamilton was not around very much or distracted, I think there also needs to be some clarification of this. First, Hamilton told us that he would be available for some one-on-one discussions, but that he is also busy and in need of watching his energy level, so we were to seek out the apprentices for any additional questions or help. Iananna, have you ever been in charge of 25 people, monitoring their well-being and spritual healing, while at the same time overseeing the development of 4 apprentices, not to mention 6 other staff members and the entire running of the camp? That is 35 people who Hamilton is ultimately responsible for, all the while working incredibly hard during ceremonies such that he is exhausted by the end of the night. In addition, he is living with everyone (i.e., no work/personal time separation). If you put yourself in Hamilton's shoes, you'll understand that he is a very busy man and doesn't have a lot of time to spend individually with all guests. That is what the apprentices are there for.

      My last point leads me to concur with another post that states that Blue Morpho and ayahuasca are about healing yourself; Hamilton and the apprentices are there as guides and tools, but ultimately, the difficult, scary, dark and deep existential/ontological work has to come from yourself. As Kira wrote in the National Geographic article, drinking ayahuasca is about learning to save yourself. Hamilton and the apprentices can only do so much, offer their time so much, etc. Ultimately, healing and deep personal growth has to come from ourselves. I'll refer again to psychotherapy as an example to illustrate my point: the one-on-one sessions are 45-60min. long and after that, it's up to the client to determine his/her life and well-being. Healers are there as guides but they can't walk the entire road with you, nor should they.

      With respect to the comment about the price of Blue Morpho and the deposit, first I will say that Blue Morpho charges a very reasonable price compared to other shamanic centres that use ayahuasca. Secondly, it is not unusual for a business to request a deposit (even one of 50% like the one Blue Morpho now requires) in order to secure a place for guests and not lose out on money. I imagine that Blue Morpho has had several guests back out at the last minute, guests who lose their nerve to follow through in going and are willing to forfeit the $100 deposit. With empty spaces that could have been filled by guests on a waiting list, this doesn't make much sense from both a business perspective and also for those on the waiting list who truly want to come. When you make an appointment with a psychotherapist, you can only cancel up to 24 hours in advance; otherwise, you must pay for your visit. Blue Morpho's request for a deposit isn't some money-swindling scheme; it's a customary procedure practiced by many, many businesses in a variety of contexts.

      Finally, I would like to say that Blue Morpho and Hamilton, Jeremy, Mimi, Daniel, Bodhi, Eluco and the rest of the staff have literally saved my life. I was severely sexually abused as a child and have spent the last 20 years of my life actively healing from it. After years and years of psychotherapy, body energy work, acupuncture, etc. I decided that western medicine was not going to bring me the resolution I was looking for. I had heard about ayahuasca, done research on it and decided to attend Blue Morpho to see if I could find healing from the sexual abuse. My trip to Blue Morpho provided me with exactly what I was looking for. I re-lived/released over 40 rapes, and I'm returning next week as I know I have more rapes to release and I also want to return to my body. At the age of 40 now, I truly believe that ayahuasca and Blue Morpho are the key to bringing me the peace that I've been searching for all of my life. I don't go to Blue Morpho for River Swimming or Boat Excursions, I go there so that I can reclaim my soul and live the life I that I was meant to and deserve to.

      I'm sorry that you had a negative experience, Iananna, and as you say, the opinions you expressed are solely your own. However, my experience of Blue Morpho was only positive and I would encourage anyone who is thinking about going to attend and discover it for yourself. You won't regret it.
      • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

        Sun, November 30, 2008 - 6:33 PM
        Well said, Sonja. Ayahuasca simply is not a tourist attraction. It is far to deep and profound. One cannot expect the healing to come from anywhere but within.

        As far as the money, pay with an open heart the money (which represents your time and energy) you feel you can spend lovingly. I try to pay for anything with that in mind. Clip coupons for groceries, not for an ayahuasca journey.

        As far as Hamilton's attention, keep in mind that it is a two-way street. He's not a servant who is there to cater to tourist whims. I can't help but wonder what kind of energy some of the people who felt disrespected by him brought to the situation themselves.

        I haven't experienced Blue Morpho, but I do sessions with a group in North America. Each session is a profound experience, and the last one was particularly difficult for me, to the point of wishing, during the pain, that I hadn't done it. Afterward, though, I realised that it was truly healing and my heart opened. Ayahuasca is medicine, not recreation.
    • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

      Sun, May 13, 2007 - 3:05 PM
      It seems to me that part of conversation is about whether Blue Morpho is a "good deal" or conducts ceremonies with integrity, the former being odd in a shamanic context, the latter being a valid question.

      Thanks to one of my buddies for sending me the link. "Hi" also to Alan; to those folks that jumped his use of language - that's just the way he talks. Different people use different modes of communcation, and as a spiritual community we probably shouldn't make a big deal out of whether people speak the way we expect them too, or whether or not it fits into our "idea" of what a spiritual person should sound like. One of my good friends, and a great spiritual counselor in his own right, is at times free with colorful language. You can miss the message if you get caught up in how it's delivered.

      It sounds like Iananna had expectations of Blue Morpho, and got upset when those expections were not met. I had expectations too, and what I got out of the experience is completely different. For that, I remain truly thankful. I was given a gift that has no price.

      The Blue Morpho center is beautiful, and I learned why they have a "nature trail" when my friend and I tried to trek off alone in the jungle - after 50 yards, we were hopelessly lost, and it was only seeing blue sky between the tree trunks (where in the jungle it's only green) that led us back to the clearing where the center is located. We went on several river tours, swimming outings, and trips to the city when us city-folks needed it. There are animals in jungle, including beetles the size of cigars, monkeys that move like streaks of black lightning, and tons of birds and butterflies, including the ubiquitous Blue Morpho - several of which flap their way lazily through the camp each day.

      I particulary liked the boat excursions, simply b/c the indigenous boats were a lot more fun to ride in than I thought they would be, and the guides were extremely helpful explaining local lifestyle, flora, and fauna. I later figured out that the swimming excursions were secret spiritual training - ceremonies and other practices that bring about spiritual energy, especially in the head, region, are balanced with dunkings in cold water (especially the head), in order to bring the spiritual energy back down into the body, to collect in the chest region. I several times had a sense of malaise after a ceremony, and the only thing that worked for me was swimming in the river. Luckily for me, the showers were also cold :) One thing I skipped on, which I wish I hadn't, was the jungle tour given by one of the staff, who is an expert in jungle survival and had taught the military jungle survival tactics. He made himself available not just for the group treks, but individual as well!


      As neat as that all was, I still got a different trip than that for which I planned. I wanted my dad to experience Ayahuasca first-hand, especially its scientifically-documented anti-depressant affects. What I got instead, for myself, was a face-to-face "experience your own death" journey, which took me four ceremonies to finally accept and to finally submit. My days after each ceremony, save the fourth and fifth, were spent in personal reflection with bouts of denial. I spoke with Hamilton several times during this period, and also several apprentices, each imparting their particular perspective on my situation. One time that particulary impressed me occurred one morning after a ceremony, when I felt wrung out and listless. I was fervently hoping to speak to Hamilton ("Hi Hamilton, I'm having a hard time, which sucks") and caught a glimpse of him going down the path by the lodge. By the time I got outside, he had gone into the hut where the people on the shamanic diet were staying. I walked by, planning to sit on the steps of the ceremonial hut until he came out. When I reach the steps and put one foot on, turning to sit, Hamilton poked his head out and said "Mike, you wanted to speak to me?".

      Yes, I did, but had only said that in my head, to myself.

      Hamilton spent the next half hour with me talking about my block in accepting the death experience, and things I might do to try and work through it. All were good suggestions that I put into practice, finally overcoming - by submitting - living and dying through my own death.

      Subsequent to the trip, I had emailed Hamilton several times to followup, asking for shamanic resources, which he readily gave, and getting advice on how to continue onwards, receiving help from the spirits, learning more about shamanism, and eventually taking classes. I'm heading back at the end of May with my brother and girlfriend in tow, this time to put myself through the diet and see what communion with the spirits bring.

      I would also add that I've done research since my trip, being a greenhorn that first time. A lot of the other people and centers I've read about have also done impressive healing work. Based that reading, and from talking with others about their ayahuasca experiences, the ayahuasca at Blue Morpho is super-strong, which a Type-A personality such as myself probably needs: When you are in the experience, you are in the experience with all five senses, and however many other senses you gain during the course of the ceremony. Hamilton has a definite plan developed which involves a specific strategy using each of the five ceremonies to advance a person in their own spiritual work with as much grace and progress as possible. I am a different person, in a different place, than where I was a year ago.

      I resisted a lot of what Ayahuasca was trying to teach me, and now I am feeling the call to return to continue the work. I think we are entering a time when people will begin to become more connected with spirit, and this may be part of the reason that so many spirits turned up in the photographs myself and others took at Blue Morpho. It is necessary to continue the work.


      Mike
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      Mon, May 14, 2007 - 1:16 PM
      Iananna, I know you received your fair share of replies to your post but please allow me to add my 2 cents worth to this discussion:

      I read about Ayahuasca the first time in the NG article and I knew almost immediatelly that I had found help to heal my body, my mind and my soul. I went there in September of 2006. The ceremonies were the worst, hardest, gut wrenching (literally!), emotionally challenging but ultimatelly so richly rewarding experiences in my life. I can say today these experiences facilitated by BMT literally saved my life. Ever since, that life which seemed so worthless has turned around 180 degrees. All what I was not and could not be, I am finally capable of being. Ayahuasca did not disappoint me. BMT and Hamilton did not disappoint me. I went with strong intentions to learn about me, my problems and my life and not for touristic entertainment. I tend to agree that the "entertainment part" was limited to a jungle hike (walk) or two, a river swim and a boat excursion but even if there would've been more opportunities for that, this was not why I had come to BMT. As far as the shamanic work and the Ayahuasca experiences are concerned, neither Ayahuasca, Hamilton, any of the other shamans and apprentices or BMT disappointed me in any shape or form. During my Ayahuasca nightmares, whenever I needed help, it was given to me (even if I communicated non-verbally). I remember distinctively Hamilton suddenly appearing in my visions as clearly as sitting right across from me (which he wasn't), giving me the guidance I needed just by his presence. I knew why I was there, knew what to expect (since I read up on every word probably ever written about Ayahuasca - also a reason why I joined this tribe way back when) and knew what my objectives were (to find help for healing my mind, my body, my soul and finding my path in this life and identifying what I wanted from this life). Ayahuasca, Hamilton and BMT delivered. I am sorry that you were disappointed (I know of two people that left the tour while I was there because of them being disappointed - maybe you and I were there the same time) but as I have seen pointed out in many writings, Ayahuasca is not for everybody and most likely to find your path requires a different quest. I wish you the best of luck to find your way. As for the financial issues, I really don't care how much BMT charges for their tours, it is their decision. I have seen offers that go beyond $ 3000.00 for 5 days in Ayahuasca camps in Brazil with gourmet food and air conditioned sleeping quarters. I think that as long as BMT's price is accepted by their customers, it is BMT's right to charge the monies they do. As far as Hamilton Sauther's integrity and knowledge as a shaman is concerned, I do not have any complaints. I approached him several times (I approached him, I didn't expect him to seek me out) with questions and was never shut down or not fully taken care of. He even agreed without any hesitation to perform a shamanic blessing on us (my girlfriend / life partner / fiance / best friend and I) as a couple.

      And as a reply to some other posters....... I did not receive a "call to arms" by BMT to counter the various negative postings. I do post a picture in my profile and have not joined tribe.net or this tribe just beginning of this month. My grammar and typing are not flawless but I really don't care. I reply because I think that BMT offers an awesome experience that, agreed, is not necessarily for everybody. The more people are educating themselves BEFORE about what they can expect, the better for all. Thanks for taking your time reading my response. BR SH
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      YOU ARE CORRECT!!!!!!!!! PHONY BALONEY

      Mon, June 9, 2008 - 4:16 AM
      Hi Iananna, You are absolutely correct in calling this operation on its phoniness. It is nothing more than big business, and Mr. Hamilton is the CEO. There were 30 people there with you? What kind of money do you think that guy is making? He's a real spiritual one, isn't he? The only visions he has in a ceremony are of dollar signs. When are the gullible foreigners going to wake up to the scam? I've been going to Peru for many years, and I have to say this is one of the hokiest operations I have seen. I have seen people sucked into this b.s. to the point of hero worship, and believe me, it makes me more nauseated than any ayahuasca I have ever drunk. Don't lose heart though. Try to be more assertive in you evaluation when you speak with people. Next time avoid these con artists. YOU HAVE HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!!!
  • Blue Morpho vs. SpiritQuest

    Wed, May 9, 2007 - 2:50 PM
    I've read the NG article on BlueMorpo and was impressed. These postings are important. I want to add my experiences at Howard Lawler's SpiritQuest. I have been to several retreats at SpiritQuest. Howard is available 24 hours a day for counseling. The shamans stayed with us and went on tours, boat rides and trips. I saw Howard counsel a troubled youth well into the night. Howard is an exceptional man. According to the other postings, I will say that nothing that these posters ecxperienced at BlueMorpo happened at SpiritQuest. The preparation of the ayahuasca was treated with reverence. Howard was at every ceremony.

    We often went to Howard's house in Iquitos. He was available for all our individual needs and requirements. There were NO apprentice shamans. Only master shamans! The shamans came around to each participant and prayed over each one. When one person needed help, he got it.

    I'm shocked at the postings regarding the poor quality at Blue Morpo. The only drawback to SpiritQuest is that it does not run ongoing retreats and you have to sign up for specific dates. As far as money goes, the problems with Blue Morpo were NEVER an issue at SpiritQuest. Howard spent a great deal of time preparing us for our first visit answering many, many emails.

    Victoria
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    Thu, May 10, 2007 - 12:04 AM
    I was there about a year ago and found the ayahuasca expereince itself to be a good experience but, really that is due more to the fact that I became disillussioned or less naieve about others helping me and was forced to take power into my own hands and heal myself(with help from God and the Universe and my Family). There was a vibe there that felt really wierd to me, kind of more like a high school party or something than a place focused on seriousness. The national geographic story desctibing it was just that, a story, I don't feel it was accurate or objective. There were some safety concerns regarding general health, it also felt a little cultish at one point. I still appreciate my time there though despite all the concerns and complaints I have. I've had countless drug experiences(sober for a year and a half now though) but 've only had two ayahuasca experiences(both there) and they were both very powerful and different from each other, I would like to try it again when I'm ready if thats what fate has in store for me but I will defiantely be going somewhere else. If anyone knows of psychologists that use it in conjunction with "Western therapy" that would be really nice, I'm a fan of Leary/Metzner/Aplert(Ram Dass) model of psychedelics. A very respectable established master shaman reccomendation would also be appreciated.
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      Cultlike??? BOY, DO YOU HAVE THEIR NUMBER.

      Mon, June 9, 2008 - 4:27 AM
      Unsu, you are also correct in pointing out that there is a cultlike atmosphere there. My take on the people I have seen involved with Blue Morpho is that they are rather weak-minded, with a strong desire to be followers, or either they are very new to ayahuasca and need direction. These are the people Souther focuses on. I know one guy in particular who was like a lost child (although he was well into his 30's) before he met Souther. After he met him, he changed completely; he portrayed Hamilton as if he were an incarnation of Christ. It made me nauseated. I hope you have no fear in spreading your opinion, because to me it is very accurate.
  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Fri, May 11, 2007 - 12:25 PM
    I've read through all the posts and find the variety somewhat irreconcilable if you take them all at face value. On one hand there are reports of Blue Morpho which are extremely critical and on the other, those filled with praise. Having been on 4 Blue Morpho Tours, I have my own point of view, and while I can't respond to individual complaints or motives, I can address some matters generally.

    The "new" camp is extraordinarily beautiful. There are photos aplenty on the website. It's tucked into the jungle about 50 kilometers from Iquitos, accessible by motor vehicle, and very well appointed considering the absence of electricity or services one might well be accustomed to otherwise. There are 6 flush toilets in the Ceremonial house alone, 2 showers as well and a level of comfort which is great for the circumstances. All the cabins are similarly equipped. The "big" house has a lot of space for 30 or so people to eat and relax. Hammocks are everywhere and the camp now has a stone path running around the area, for safety walking in heavy downpours. The idea of a line for the toilets, as one person mentioned, is just not the case.

    The first day on the trips is mostly getting to the camp, having lunch, settling in, gathering the plants for the ayahuasca ceremonies, dinner and then a long presentation by Hamilton on what to expect, how to ask for help, how to stay calm in the ceremony, and answering whatever questions guests have. People tend to be filled with questions and fears, understandably and Hamilton does as good a job as possible in trying to explain what is literally impossible to explain clearly to someone who has not yet drunk ayahuasca. He makes it eminently clear that people having trouble should ask for help and not to be a hero or feel that asking for help is a form of weakness.

    The cooking of the ayahuasca takes place pretty much all of day 2. Guests help and wander to and from the cooking hut. Either Hamilton or Alberto are around the fire while the ayahuasca is being prepared. People usually wait with a lot of anticipation for them to begin. Some relax or nap. Some meditate. I played cards and chess to ward off the anxiety. The ceremonies begin around 7:30PM.

    The ceremonies themselves are hard to describe accurately. Hamilton and Alberto prepare themselves and the ayahuasca with various rituals and incantations. The apprentices are also there on what is similar to a dais. They sit up in chairs while almost all the guests lie on mats, equipped with toilet paper to be used as tissues, a puke bucket, a blanket, usually some form of light in case they have to travel to the bathroom in the darkness and little else.

    It is impossible to describe what happens in a given ceremony because except for the beginning, when the ayahuasca is poured and drunk, the lanterns go off and the icaros begin, it is not the same every time. In general, perhaps 20 minutes after drinking, many people throw up. Some people lie silently. Others may seem to be struggling and might moan or yell or laugh uproariously or perhaps seem to be talking to someone. Hamilton and Alberto are constantly and continually available to all. If someone needs help they will come over immediately or give instructions to the guest having difficulty. I always felt taken care of and monitored and when I needed it, I was given assistance immediately. Both Hamilton and Alberto are stunningly competent and powerful in the shamanic space.

    The experiences for me were easily the most brilliant and life affirming I've ever known. I was terrified before every ceremony and would have happily avoided facing those fears but I knew I was being taken care of and the illumination the ceremonies gave my life was more than worth it. The purpose of this post is not to describe my journeys but to describe Blue Morpho. I can't imagine wanting to drink anywhere else at this point. Not only is Alberto someone with over 3,000 ceremonies under his belt and utterly fearless in the work, Hamilton is unimaginably skilled and has the unique ability to work in the shamanic space and to communicate in the relevant metaphors the mostly western guests can understand. I have never met anyone in my life who is more capable or more magnificent a human being. I count among my meetings, Carlos Castaneda and a host of luminaries in my 54 years. None hold a candle to Hamilton.

    Not only do I recommend using Blue Morpho, I do it with a sense that you will be changed in ways you can't imagine and will be thankful for having gone. It's also fair to guess that you will be scared shitless at some point and maybe freaking out on a level you may not feel capable of dealing with. You will handle it and you'll do it in good hands and realize that along the way.

    One more thing.I don't know what to say about the negative comments made by others in this forum. I met over 80 other guests there and while some had complaints, they tended to reflect a certain preciousness on the part of those guests and sometimes such overwhelming anxiety that they were looking for someone to either deal with or blame when they didn't. And I saw Hamilton, on several occasions treating guests who were aggressively rude to him with tremendous understanding and compassion. That impressed me more than I can say. He also got up multiple times on various nights and sat with guests all night as they puked or screamed or panicked. One guest berated him for hours and Hamilton just tried to soothe him before he then put him in the shower and bathed him. This after being called names and mocked.

    Go there and see for yourself.
  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Fri, May 11, 2007 - 12:49 PM
    Hello, I am Hamilton Souther owner of Blue Morpho. I wanted to personally share some of our points of view surrounding our center and our practices. Since our founding in early 2002 we have focused on traditional Amazonian Shamanism practices offering a safe and comfortable environment for our guests. We strive to offer the best attention to everyone that comes to our center considering they come for a wide variety of reasons. We have met overwhelming positive responses from the vast majority of our guests. We have received very few complaints about any of our services from over 500 guests. A few have not felt that their experience was positive, and for that I am truly sorry. We have maintained open communication with those previous guests and worked to come to an amicable conclusion. We feel that we have been fair and courteous in the face of any complaint, believing that any differences are made right through integrity, honesty and open communication.

    We stand by our practice of Amazonian shamanism. Shamans live and are taught through lineage. Each lineage is different from another and while they may share similarities they will also have many differences. In our case our center is based on the lineage of shamans formed by two different families, Don Julio Llerena Pinedo, and Alberto Torres Davila. Julio and Alberto formed a pact of medicine and allegiance that lasted over 30 years until Julio’s passing. Julio was taught by the doctor spirits directly in the forest, while Alberto was from a lineage of shamans, passing down the heritage from father to son for many generations. During the time that the pact was formed Julio headed a mesa of over 8 Maestros (master shamans) that included Alberto, his father, and grandfather.

    I traveled to the remote area where Julio lived in October of 2001 and began participating in ceremonies. After a year I was accepted by Alberto and Julio as a formal apprentice to follow a formal traditional apprenticeship. I was accepted into their lineage which covers generations of master shamans and very powerful healers. Throughout the course of apprenticing Alberto, Julio and I formed bonds for life agreeing to support each other shamanically and to work together. In December of 2004 I received the title of Maestro, given to me by Julio and Alberto. The three of us worked together until Julio’s death and Alberto and I have continued since. At the time that I began my apprenticeship, Alberto and Julio had no apprentices despite efforts to teach other family members. They had not made it through the rigger of apprenticeship.

    Alberto and I have a bond that is pledged for life. We both live our shamanic practice every day inside and outside of Blue Morpho. We work together to share this practice with others because as Alberto says, “they come looking for our help and we are pledged to offer it. We do what we can to help them giving them all we can.” We respect the traditional practice as a way of life, not a business or a show. The traditional practice of our lineage includes belching into the ayahuasca bottle as a form of imparting medicine energies to the ayahuasca liquid held in the chest cavity of the shamans.

    We feel that our open expression of shamanism is not irreverent but real. We love the plants and the spirits. We live with them inside our bodies and are in contact with them all the time. Any of our practices that are not inline with the medicine spirits is quickly straightened out by the spirits between us, which is an important form of shamanic learning. Alberto began working with the spirits at the age of 8 under the tutelage of his grandfather. He lives with the spirits and has guided me through the same ancient traditions in which he learned.

    I have worked to bridge the tremendous gap between traditional Amazonian practice and the needs of our guests. This form of shamanism takes years to understand, and I have tried to present it to our guests in a way that helps them be able to receive the greatest benefits from the ceremonies. Before ceremonies begin, we allow our guests to photograph us at the front of the ceremony. We do not feel this detracts from the respect we have for the medicine.

    As a center we have strived to constantly better our services. We understand that our guests have many different needs and we work to accommodate all of them. We are available 24 hours a day. ,I as well as our apprentices, have stayed up all night on many occasions with guests that have needed extended personal attention. On our tours we have trained personal to help our guests individually. We ask that all our guests maintain open communication with us so that we can know how each person is fairing through their experiences. We also have an active program of apprenticeships for locals and foreigners alike. We are working to maintain and preserve these practices for the future during a time when local interest in their shamanic tradition is dying out.

    The last few years have brought a series of amazing and wonderful changes to us. In the fall of 05 Blue Morpho moved locations from our old home on the Aucayacu River, over 300 Km from Iquitos, to Km 53 on the Iquitos Nauta road. The move allowed us to create a center that would become our permanent home that would have nicer accommodations and at the same time provide the opportunity to hold larger group sizes. Our old site was very remote and our guests’ safety was a concern for us. We wanted to be able to have an environment that would give more people the opportunity to experience our presentation of this amazing form of Shamanism. The old camp was very remote and rustic with very few amenities. We held much smaller groups and required smaller infrastructure and employees to accommodate for the needs of our guests. Our old prices reflected this and our tours cost less. Our old camp consisted of three small jungle buildings and our new center consists of three large structures and seven smaller structures. We offer individual accommodation and a much more comfortable environment. We built the center with the focus to cover all of the various needs our guests, understanding that the majority of them had never been to the Amazon and were coming specifically for the shamanism, not a rustic jungle tour. The new center has become a wonderful place to stay for 9 days offering privacy and comfortable communal areas.

    We are priced within the range of all the other centers that offer similar length tours. We offer five ceremonies while many others offer only three in a seven or eight day period of time. Our other activities other than ceremonies are listed and available throughout the tour.

    We stand behind our practice first as shamans and then as a center. We believe we offer a high quality service at the same time as amazing ceremonies. We welcome those that would like to come and experience traditional shamanism in a comfortable and safe environment.

    Sincerely,

    Hamilton Souther
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      Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

      Fri, May 11, 2007 - 2:00 PM
      Gary and Hamilton the same guy....Hmmm
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        Sat, May 12, 2007 - 2:26 AM
        i highly doubt this since hamilton has a lot of integrity and courage. he probably wouldn't ever think of resorting to that. but, i did meet at least two garys while i was at blue morpho. one became an apprentice. i believe the gary who posted before hamilton is probably the other one, a retired professor who spent a good amount of time there. it sounds like him.

        very revealing of you to throw a little deviant cynicism into the mix though...
    • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

      Fri, May 11, 2007 - 2:59 PM
      I'm happy to see that Hamilton has been on this tribe and willing to read and then address complaints.
      Victoria Alexander
      My weekly column, “The Devil’s Hammer,” appears every Monday on www.FromTheBalcony.com. The Devil's Hammer on FTB

      • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

        Sat, May 12, 2007 - 1:08 AM
        Ok... First of all, My name is Alan. I had severe existential crisis(es). An artist, an ontological masochist. I went to Peru to find help. I checked out Blue Morpho (first skeptical cuz how "nice" the place looked). I felt i needed the nitty gritty dirty congo to get the real healing but ooooooooh no. I read Kiras NG article, hell, I even met her there at BM. I gotta tell you folks this, the ones that have never done this stuff and are in need of some serious mental and health help. The ones that seek love. Ive never had heros in my life, the beatnicks - counter culture psychadelics, etc. Yea, they helped inspire me but it was me against the world. I felt alone and sort of god complex "let me save the world, etc". To each their own.

        I gotta say this. Fuck all you haters. Hamilton and Don Alberto are my heros. Real living super heros. Yea. I know. What? Right. Trust me, these guys are the real genuine deal and Id pay the full price just to see these dudes sit on a chair.

        Im reading these posts and I think these haters are more concerned with the tourism aspect and the talks then the experience. If you want hot water, go to a hotel. If you want a amazonian tour, get a tour guide. This isnt about that (they offer great accomadations) but the reason you go to this is for the healing. The genuine super fucking powers these dudes have and share.

        I went in there a post existential linguistic hedonist and I came out a cosmic fucking warrior. This is the adventure of a life time. Im here to tell those skeptics and the unsures to go to blue morpho. Why? Because it helped me and because these dudes totally dont need this feedback. Ive done around 30 aya ceremonies. I was depressed and just totally miserable. After BM, after their help, after meeting the maestros I finally woke up. Like, I knew it was magical (and ive tried all the drugs and read all THOSE books) and here... i lived it. I was it. And the best part was... i felt safe. Even though I went through some shit, I was always safe. You can go to other places and when your private parts are shown and your mind is flashing out like some telepathic webcast, you still feel safe. Sure, you can go to the amazon and hire a local shaman but do you truthfully know he has your best interests? What if your tripping your balls (or vaginas) off and they gut you and steal your cash. What if the shamans you hang with just dont really know anything.

        These guys, its not about (oh, how do you know they are so powerful). You KNOW. Its true full experiencing. Understanding and all knowing identity with the source. These guys offer the protection so you can have your flow motion party after effects.

        (P.S... im not crazy, well.. i am, but in a beautiful shameless artistic way)

        I urge you all to stop talking shit and start living your life. Go to blue morpho and tell Hamilton Alan convinced you to go. Cuz Hamilton is THE PIMP and Don Alberto is the GRAND MASTER PLAYA.

        I love you blue morpho. dont worry about these haters, when the film comes out your gonna have to start your own country once I get the world to show up over there.

        Love, Alan Dream
        www.myspace.com/alan-dream
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    Sat, May 12, 2007 - 2:00 AM
    i just spent a half hour writing the BEST post, but i'm a novice, so i lost it! anyway, i want to get back to what i was working on, but i wanted to say a quick something. (the reply i just wrote was really, really long, so be thankful!)

    i've been to blue morpho twice since jan 2005. the first time hamilton met me and everyone else from our group at the airport, we all ate dinner together in iquitos, and the trip out to the camp was breathtaking--they were in a different area then. i loved the staff, the other participants, the ceremonies, the amazon. truly amazing and life changing. i recommended the trip to a good friend and he's been to b.m. twice. the last time he took two friends. i'm planning on going there for a third trip in june, next month, and i'm excited!

    the hamilton i know is hard to describe because he's not at all what you expect. and i think that's a wonderful surprise. the first trip he was super outgoing, accomodating and had a sincere desire to help all of us. i learned a lot, purged a lot and healed a lot. the ceremonies were absolutely incredible, really beyond description. hamilton thoroughly prepared us before, ensured our safety during each ceremony and gregariously participated in the 'next-morning' discussions (more like festivities).

    when we weren't resting/reading/journaling/whatever on our own, there were many activities available to us. we were told we just had to let him know what we wanted to do. and we did just that. some of the activities our group did were: canoeing, jungle hikes, volleyball, chakra and energy lessons, power animal retrievals and use of other medicinal plants. the food was really good, and i had one of the best times of my life. don alberto is also wonderful. i have a deep love for this man. both he and hamilton are powerful, trustworthy and dedicated shamans.

    my second trip was the shamanic diet at the new camp, which is nice! there were apprentices, more people, softer pillows...but, no. there was no hot water. i was never promised hot water, but i don't think it's available in the amazon. you really don't need it anyway. yes, there were changes. no, i didn't talk to hamilton as much. the diet can zap your energy. i was mostly sleeping or resting. we all were. i still had a great experience, very deep. i think most everyone did. there was one person who had a 'bad' attitude, i'll say. not that i believe in bad or good, but this person was pretty resistant to the experience--which is a great reason for them to have been there: to learn, change and grow. hamilton went out of his way to work with this person.

    one thing i said in the other, now non-existent, post was the thing that most impresses me about hamilton (as a human being) is his communication. he is probably the best listener i've ever met. this ability is something you notice later, if at all--that his funny anecdotes have a purpose and their message is always intended to help someone. what a truly beautiful gift. hamilton's life purpose is to help others, and he fulfills it by sharing his vast wisdom, skills and abilities both as a shaman and as a 'regular' person. he's also smart and has a great sense of humor. i think a lot of people i've met at or through blue morpho have these qualities too...

    we all grow at different speeds, in different ways. we all have unique personalities and backgrounds. these are things we bring into our reality, wherever we are, whatever we are doing. i think there's some degree of truth to everyone's posts here, but i also am keeping in mind that subjectivity and objectivity affect interpretation. if you're interested in ayahuasca, you're likely already focused on spiritual growth, and have a great understanding of the power of attitudes and beliefs in creating your reality...if you get my point :)

    i'm happy to talk more if you have sincere questions about blue morpho or ayahuasca. jeremy from blue morpho can give you my email or #. i joined this site only to post this, but i can try to check here too. pls just remember that i somehow lost the first post i typed out, so this may not be the best way to contact me ...?!

    perhaps we'll meet at blue morpho one day. if so, i look forward to it! in the meantime, the best of everything to you, may you find joy and beauty in all that you do, and fully enjoy each moment. to ever-increasing light and love...
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      Sat, May 12, 2007 - 7:40 AM
      The following is my opinion on Blue Morpho Tours:

      I have attenended Blue Morpho tours trip last year. It was the best vacation i took in my life. It was absolutely life changing for me.

      I have found the apprentices and Hamilton to be very caring and helpful. Hamilton gave me and my group his undivided attention many times. He always had time for each and every guest. After meals he would sit with my group in the common room and speak to us about his findings and opinions on everything we asked many times, and without hesitation. As a matter of fact, he was awesome. There were quite a few nights when he stayed up with various guests all night long when they needed him. Still, the next day he stayed with the group as much as he could in the common area speaking to us about whatever we asked him about. In my opinion, he is very close to Spririt. He also communicates with Spirit very well. But whether that makes him psychic or not, i don't know. When i needed personal attention from Hamilton, i asked for it and I got it without any trouble. He was a very caring and alert during my counsel.

      All extra activities that are listed on their website held up too. My group has experienced hiking through the jungle, fishing for piranha, a trip to the river beach not too far from the camp, and a kick ass view boat ride on the river. Eluco was the one that took us everywhere. He is awesome! Totally sweet and a very, very, very knowledgable guy when it comes to the jungle.

      As far as the animals go, i'm sorry, but i have a really hard time believing that anyone has said that there are no animals around. Camp is in the jungle, i assure you animals live there. Eluco is the master in finding wildlife and he shows a lot of awesome things during the jungle hikes.

      I haven't seen any promises about hot water being available at the camp. I actually emailed Blue Morpho before the trip asking what accomidations were available. I was told there was only cold water. But to be honest, after an Ayahuasca ceremony and a hot day, cold shower felt awesome.

      I have tried to compare Blue Morpho's pricing to other two places in Peru. These places weren't even camps. They said i had to get a hotel on my own and pay them $5,000 for 3 ceremonies within a 7 day period. Considering the NG Adventure article by Kira S. and all the testimonials i decided upon Blue Morpho Tours.

      I am very happy i chose them. I have never felt so at home anywhere. Blue Morpho has a very caring, loving and helpful environment. Hamilton, the Apprentices and Blue Morpho staff were nothing short of awesome. Not once, anyone in my group was denied help at any point or time. Not even at 3 a.m. or all through the night.

      The apprentices were very helpful, never overwhelmed which was very comforting. They gave my group a very long talk on what to expect during the Ayahuasca ceremony to be sure we were prepared for it best as possible. The next morning after the ceremony, we had meetings after breakfast to discuss our experiences, address our concerns and ask any questions we may have.

      During the ceremony Hamilton and the apprentices were very helpful. They will do everything they can to make sure you're alright. I did have a very hard time one night. Hamilton was helping another guest who was having a hard time also at the moment i needed him. So i decided to try what the apprentices suggested, which was to call on him 3 times in my mind. You know what? He came! Yes, i saw Hamilton in two places at once. I even heard him speak to me. Call it what you will, but i am telling you that for me, this worked. After i have done that, the great discomfort i was feeling and trying to fight for a half hour, almost instantly has left me.

      Prior to the trip i didn't know what to expect. I was going somewhere i have never been to before without any native language skills. Blue Morpho has made me feel at home every day i was there. As i have previously stated, the experience there was life chaning for me in a very positive way. It also inspired me to get a tattoo. Everyone in my group was as happy at their experience as i was. They still feel the same way. We all still keep in touch and we're very greatful to have met eachother and have attended the Blue Morpho trip. I was so happy at my last experience, i am going back this year. Actually half of my group is returning this year.

      Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and i absolutely understand that and respect that. What i have written is my own personal opinion. To anyone that is going to Blue Morpho i hope you have just as an awesome time as i did. I give Blue Morpho Tours 5 out of 5 stars for their service.

      Love and Light to all of you!
      • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

        Sat, May 12, 2007 - 8:07 AM
        I've never been to Blue Morpho, nor have I met Hamilton or don Alberto, so I have no opinion to share. I do look forward to meeting them some day.

        It is nice to see the people who have experienced positive healing at Blue Morpho show up here in the last couple days to share their experience. I do hope you will all hang around Tribe after this and participate in the various discussion groups that are peopled by those on this path. There is a lot of wisdom and experience being shared, and IMHO is a good idea to see as many viewpoints as possible and to learn as much as possible. My opinion is that, until one becomes a full on dedicated apprentice, it's good to experience many different shamans, especially given the amazing and powerful healers that practice in Peru. While the chance of finding sham shamans is real, it's pretty small if you stick with the ones with good reputations. There's going to be an amazing conference, put on by Alan and Mariella Shoemaker, in Iquitos in July where many of these great healers will be sharing their wisdom and ceremonies. I can't recommend this enough. www.soga-del-alma.org for more on this.

        Maggie, you said:

        "I have tried to compare Blue Morpho's pricing to other two places in Peru. These places weren't even camps. They said i had to get a hotel on my own and pay them $5,000 for 3 ceremonies within a 7 day period. "

        That is amazing. I've spent many months in Iquitos and several different locations. I've never heard of anyone charging anywhere near this much. All of the retreat centers I've visited or heard about charge somewhere around 50-100 US per day, including ceremonies, food, lodging, etc. Some offer much cheaper options, though with more rugged amenities. I'd like to see the links for these $5000 a week sites if possible to see what is going on there. Really, this seems far fetched to me.
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          Sat, May 12, 2007 - 9:12 AM
          The research i did on these two places was done well over a year ago. I am sorry, i cannot provide you with the links. I don't remember thm. The two i mentioned were the worst deals that i have found. I have considered three places including Blue Morpho at that time, which i have found when i googled 'ayahuasca ceremony participation'. I emailed all three with questions in regards to the ceremony and the overall experience. Jeremy from Blue Morpho emailed me back the next day. One place didn't write me back for 3 weeks and the third place wrote me back four days later telling me to reffer to their webpage with any questions. Once again, since it has been over a year ago, I am sorry but i cannot recall the names.

          I have found Blue Morpho to be very responsive to my questions, and also always fast to answer. Because of that, i believed they were on top of their game with what they did, and that is why I chose to attend one of their trips. Which i have mentioned in my previous post, was absolutely awesome.

          I would be happy to provide any additional feedback to anyone about this. Just email jeremy and ask for my E-mail.

          Love and Light!
          • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

            Sat, May 12, 2007 - 10:21 AM
            Hmmm. They must have gone out of business then. I used the same search terms in google, went about 10 pages deep, and found nothing about anyplace that charges that much. The range I found for 1 week was $850-$1500, inclusive. If you happen to recall, please let me know as I'm quite curious how someone could rationalize such a rate.
    • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

      Sat, May 12, 2007 - 7:55 AM
      I have to start by agreeing with Alan. During my stay at BMT, I DID go fishing many of the days and went on jungle hikes, but if you’re planning a trip to the Amazon to go “birding” or basket weaving, go somewhere else. If you’re genuinely interested in Amazonian Shamanism, Hamilton and Don Alberto are true masters of the work. I think the people that responded negatively to Blue Morpho and the staff expected to have an Ayahuasca experience while sipping on margaritas and bathing in hot springs talking to a guru dressed in feathers and a loin cloth. Having gone there twice, I was disappointed too when I couldn’t order a margarita off the healthy menu.

      In all seriousness, I’m sad that a few people didn’t have the life changing kick-ass experience that I’ve had TWICE. I was fortunate enough to have the opportunity to heal myself with the HELP of Hamilton and Don Alberto a year and half ago. Not knowing ANYTHING about Ayahuasca, and just curious about the world of Shamanism, I came to Blue Morpho expecting an old Indian guy wearing feathers and a hippie named Hamilton to brush me with some banana leaves and take away my pain. Honestly, when I saw Hamilton for the first time my guards were up. He looked as if he could have easily been an old frat brother. I was so skeptical I didn’t think this dude from California was going to help me with any problems I had.

      That’s just it. Hamilton is a regular guy with extraordinary wisdom. He doesn’t go walking around in yoga pants humming We Are the World. He tells jokes, is easy to talk to, and can share a TON of information regarding what your learning. Aside from being a regular guy, this guy’s the REAL DEAL, A TRUE MAESTRO. You’ll know when you go see for yourself. After the first night of ceremony when I was “shown” the work is REAL and Hamilton is for REAL, I mean a REAL shaman, I bowed down to the power of Ayahuasca and the Spirits. The rest of my journey was full of self- exploration and had complete trust in Hamilton and Don Alberto. I had complete trust in the people that helped me to the toilet and changed my puke bucket. I had complete trust that a toilet was going to be available when I needed one. I never once felt unsafe or that I couldn’t easily talk to anyone about my experience. The entire staff is loving, trustworthy, and passionate about the work. Both of my trips to BMT were unforgettable! Like Kara (the girl that posted before me), if ANYONE has any questions regarding this subject, please feel free to contact Jeremy at BMT and get my e- mail.

      -Angelito
  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Sat, May 12, 2007 - 7:46 AM
    Hello. My name is Peggy. I’m a fifty-four-year-old high school teacher who has been on the path for decades. I have studied with many clear teachers. I have spent quite a few hours on the cushion. I have been challenged with cancer and the fear that surrounds the condition. I have raised three amazing children. Shortly after my daughter was born, I began reading about spiritualism in South America, and at that time, I established the intention to travel there some day. It wasn’t until nearly thirty years later that I felt completely convinced that I had found my maestro because until then, I knew the time wasn’t right. Upon recommendation from my friend Kira (and by the way, in response to one of the posts, I’ve never assessed her as “starry-eyed” but one of the most diligent, courageous, inspiring people I have ever met), I headed to Blue Morpho. For me, the entire experience was terrifying, and I can’t explain the relief I felt the moment I initially saw and met Hamilton. He is clear. He is strong. He is fearless. He has walked the walk. He is contained in light. He has done, and continues to do, the work. And most of all, I knew he would protect me. He simply knows the spiritual world. He understands ayahuasca on a very personal, intimate level.

    Working with the medicine is messy. For me it was scary and sickening and unstable. I needed help. I needed healing. Moments after drinking for the first time, moments after being inundated with visions, and moments after Hamilton began chanting his first icaro, I figured out that if I hung on to his lead, he would guide me through this very unfamiliar, bizarre world. If it were not for Hamilton, I would never have the courage to return to ayahuasca. I would never have the courage to continue my work to understand the truth, whatever it might be, in this shamanistic way. Because of his clarity and pure energy, I was able to endure the five ceremonies. Hamilton protects the ceremony. He works within many dimensions to assure a safe environment for his students during ceremony. I have deep gratitude for the medicine; and for me, Hamilton makes the experience accessible. Ayahusasca is very powerful, and I would never consider doing it without equally powerful guidance. I believe Hamilton’s lineage is grounded in light energy. I believe this because throughout each ceremony, I was held in the light and presence of God. This was something I had not even considered prior to my first ceremony, but without that pure light, I would never had made it through the terrifying process of purging.

    Nearly two years ago, I experienced phenomenal healing, both physical and mental, through ayahuasca. I am humbled each time I recall my experience with the medicine. It feels like the solid truth to me. In July I return to Blue Morpho. The accommodations are not important to me although I was completely impressed with the original camp and felt very comfortable there. What IS important to me is the level of enlightenment of my teacher. I return to BM because of my maestro. Hamilton’s clarity, openness, wisdom, dedication, fearlessness, and experience draw me back. If it weren’t for him, I would never have the courage to return to ayahuasca. Hamilton taught me to pray “gratitudes” every day, and believe me, there has not been a day since my time with him, that he, the medicine, and God have not been on my list. I am eternally grateful for Hamilton and the ayahusasca spirit.
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    Sat, May 12, 2007 - 7:50 AM
    At Blue Morpho I kicked two years of serious drug dependency in three ceremonies. During my most difficult ceremony, my first ceremony, Hamilton Souther stayed awake with me for eight straight hours, until dawn, holding my hands, praying over me, encouraging me, and pouring love onto me.

    The service and hospitality was completely secondary to the fact that I recieved this healing. Regardless, I found that the service was amazing too.

    That was my first trip. My second trip last spring entailed more of the same. I returned early from Blue Morpho after recieving a teaching in ceremony that suggested there was some work to do back on the homefront. I asked Hamilton what he thought about me leaving early and he was completely supportive and offered amazing love--going back into the city with me to help me rebook flights and seeing me off with a hug.

    When I returned home my father attempted to kill himself. I was the only one in the house. I talked a knife out of his hands with the same love and encouragement that Hamilton had given me while in ceremonies. My dad's ok today, and he still says that he's convinced that it was something in my voice during his attempt---a "calm."

    I think that it's important to raise concerns about a business, how it could improve, what changes might happen to make it even better, but I also sense that anger being directed towards people who give their life to medicine and healing seems out of place.

    Does Hamilton and Blue Morpho have room to grow? I suspect that we all do. I don't see Hamilton or Blue Morpho as above this recognition either.

    I think that if you're planning to go to Blue Morpho, then plan to go as someone seeking healing and growth, not tourism or amneties. Go to seek healing or growth primarily through your experiences with Ayahuasca. Plan on giving away your future and the question "why?"

    If you're going to Blue Morpho be "given" some kind of experience, then expect that what will be asked of you is to give everything back: expectations, cynicism, fear, criticism, and negativity.

    I return for two rounds of ceremonies and my first dieta next week. I've watched Blue Morpho grow over the past two years. I'm so blessed and thankful for Alberto and Hamilton, Jeremy, Meme, Daniel, Gary, the whole gang.

    These guys are world-class healers and also great people.

    Blessings--Adam


  • Returnee to Blue Morpho

    Sat, May 12, 2007 - 8:54 AM
    I went to BMT in the Spring of 2006 after reading the NG article and returning this June 2007.

    There are two issues on the board and they should not necessarily be mixed together: these are the spiritual experiences of Ayahuasca ceremonies itself and then the business aspects of the BMT. BMT is my only experience with the Ayahuasca.

    During my first trip, I was focused on the spiritual tour and did not concern myself about the web site mentioned jungle tours, etc. It was un-important. There are so much interactivity and learning with Hamilton, Don Alberto, the apprentices and other tourers that I had more than enough to deal with. The price then was lower. Since then, the price has gone up – to par perhaps and as such, people have more certain expectations, are more demanding and less excusing - this is where BMT may have been less than impeccable. But, I think BMT is more than willing to accomodate and help people out on this.

    Now, I will relate what I feel about Hamilton and Don Alberto. As Men, I found them to be extremely kind and gentle, full of integrity and personal honor, wise beyond the years (for Hamilton), giving and patient, damn funny and humorous, calming, sweet, etc. etc. And impeccable.

    As Shamans, they have supremely amazing powers and knowledge and as importantly, they use it with complete integrity, sweetness and purity. During the ceremonies, I had several “non-ordinary realty” experiences with them – which “proofed” it for me beyond any doubt.

    Hamilton and Don Alberto are complete masters at controlling the energies, the mood and the experiences during the ceremonies. By this, I mean that they were actually conducting and orchestrating the “ceremony” in the literal sense and controlling every aspect of it – this was extremely comforting to know and I felt completely secure. You can be completely at ease going into the ceremonies, knowing this. I believe that they have complete mastery and their spiritual intent is 100% pure and is unimpeachable.

    During the past year, on several occasions, I communicated by email with Hamilton, in every instance he responded with detailed, thoughtful and insightful advise. BTW, the BMT staff and the camp staff are accommodating, quite helpful and will do anything for you.

    The Ayahuasca is an amazing healer. It can do wonders for you – in the shortest amount of time, anything you want, it’s a jack of all trades curer. My take on it is that there are energetic components to our issues. And that these are in our bodies. The medicine will go to them and simply – physically - take them out; then, golly, no more issues, no nothing. Or you can do multiple sessions of therapy and incrementally deal with them.

    One should remember the personal purpose and intent for going to BMT and don’t let anything or anyone distract you from that. The most important things for me are: Hamilton and Don Alberto’s complete mastery of the vine and the ceremonies combined with their personal and spiritual integrity and purity.



  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Sat, May 12, 2007 - 9:59 AM
    Hamilton's place has worked for me. He has become one of my dearest friends and a great teacher. That said, it is alright to go there and dislike him. Working with Ayahuasca can have a bewildering effect. People go for every reason: some are looking for healing from a certain ailment, some are into the whole Terence McKenna thing, some have been cajoled by a friend who was too forceful in their convincing. People end up at Blue Morpho for every reason, and it is a safe repository for all of those circumstances. A trip like this can create alot of expectation for people as they prepare to go. The medicine is good at bringing us out of our expectations and onto another level. If we see negativity everywhere we look, the whole world is constantly in the act of failing to meet our expectations. If we begin to see how we create the negativity we experience, we take a step towards lasting freedom.

    As Western interest in Ayahuasca continues to rise, let's not forget the tremendous energy and mastery it takes to hold that space. Hamilton and Alberto are two friendly shamans who hold that space on our behalf, so we can have these conversations, so we can consider going to work with the medicine, so we can receive the healing gifts of the Amazon.
  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Sat, May 12, 2007 - 10:47 AM
    I went to BM in January 2007. Everyone there offered care and attention during the whole trip. It was truly the most profound experience of my life. I always felt cared for and held in a safe environment. Hamilton was always there for me and others, both inside the ceremonial hall and outside. Just because he wasn't there 'in person' 24/7 didn't mean he wasn't with us all 100% spiritually.
    I don't know why some people on this thread have an axe to grind about the level of professionalism offered. All I can say is that one must have a lot of personal responsibility if partaking in ayahuasca ceremony. The maestro and Cielo Ayahuasca (bless Her) are there to help but ultimately it's YOU that has to do the hard work. The Laws of the Universe dictate that what you give out you give back. Maybe those who came away from BM disappointed didn't practise this universal truth.
    I'm returning to BM later this year. It is like a second home to me. My memories of the staff there, they are like family. The love they emanate is so beautiful.
    Go with LOVE and you will receive LOVE. Simple as that folks.
    • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

      Sat, May 12, 2007 - 11:10 AM
      And as as footnote, yes Hamilton did answer my calls in the ceremonial house. I would ask him psychically, in my mind "Hamilton help!" and he was reply out loud "I'm here for you Debs". I mean, how amazing is that? That was just one of the most awesome things, he is a true maestro, a master of his art.
  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Sat, May 12, 2007 - 11:41 AM
    I went to Blue Morpho for the first time last November. I had been to Peru several times searching for a place I felt safe to drink ayahuasca. I discovered Blue Morpho on the web and decided to give it a try. From the second I stepped on to the property, I knew that I had made the right decision. There is such a strong Spirit presence there. Hamilton and the staff do everything they can to make you feel welcome and safe. Ayahuasca is not easy, but I knew there were people there who could and would help me through it. My experience was incredible. I am going back to Blue Morpho in June for more journeys. If you are serious about learning from the plant spirits, I don't think there is a better place than Blue Morpho.
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    Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Sat, May 12, 2007 - 2:51 PM
    Having done 10 ceremonies with Hamilton and Blue Morpho, I would recommend them (and have sent about a dozen people down) to everyone. The new camp is wonderful, the ceremonies were intense, beautiful, safe (this is a big one, as the medicine opens up gateways, and the white energy of Hamilton and everyone keeps you safe and sound), and amazing!

    I have met people from around the world I now know, and keep in contact with!

    The medicine continues to work in me and the spirit works through me! My abilities as an energy worker have increased due to this work! Ayahuasca is a powerful medicine, and if you have the mental stamina and courage to face up to who you are and create who you want to be is amazing!

    I have some pictures on www.pathlightercoaching.com of the experience!!

    It was AWESOME!! If you have detailed questions, please contact me!

    Namaste' and Peace!

    Jim
  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Sat, May 12, 2007 - 5:54 PM
    The use of the term "haters" in regard to this conversation is not called for. The one who used that term also spouted a lot of other foul language that seems to me to be quite out of character for someone who has experienced the depth and challenge of Mother Ayahuasca.

    There is a distinction to be made between honest critique and just plain bad-mouthing someone or something. Some of us have made some assessments about Blue Morpho and Mr. Souther based on our own personal experiences, encounters, or communications, and this assessment is what is being discussed for the benefit of all. It is not easy to make decisions about such a deep, personal, and powerful experience in such a remote place from the comfort of our homes in North America. It is right that we be cautious and be thorough in our evaluations before investing not only large sums of our money, but our very persons and our psyches to those we do not know.
    I am very happy that so many of you have had positive and life-changing experiences at Blue Morpho. Some have not had good experiences there, and some have shied away from that venue because of communications problems of one kind or another or just because something did not feel right for us. It is a very personal choice. There is room for many styles and approaches and not all of them will work for you or for me.

    I thank Mr. Souther for responding to this thread. I understand you do have many supporters.

    A point about the tribal tours, etc., as "tourist" activities. In my experience, the opportunity to visit some of the indigenous tribal peoples was an integral part of the Ayahuasca experience. These people are the rich and ancient source of this knowledge and experience and it was fascinating and instructive to be amongst them and see how they cultivate the vine, express themselves in artwork about their experiences, and especially to have many of them join us in our ceremonies each night. To go out on the rivers and make forays into the jungle to find Ayahuasca and other admixture plants growing wild, or to gather shakapa leaves from the field, was an integral part of the overall Ayahuasca experience and I am happy my group was able to do these things. Sure, we did a few "fun" things along the way - but they were, indeed, extras, and we are still human beings. A week working with Ayahuasca should be a rich and enjoyable experience, not necessarily a frightening ordeal (although that aspect does have its place, as many of us know).

    Cheerleadings and grousings aside, I do hope that we can continue to share our honest opinions about the various options in Peru, and to hear from others what their experiences were truly like in one place or another or with one person or another. It is useful and good, and we should be here to help one another make these choices.
  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Sat, May 12, 2007 - 10:05 PM
    I chose to go to Blue Morpho late last spring because of the article I read in Nat'l. Geo. (As many of my fellow group members did). For me, it was basically an instinctual decision, i.e., even though I knew this could be an incredibly intense, sometimes harrowing experience I felt that I would be taken care of. I was not dissapointed. First of all, my fellow group members were incredibly kind, intelligent, open-minded people. Secondly, I felt right at home as soon as I stepped foot onto the lodge grounds. I felt so comfortable that I left all of my valuables (including passport, money) inside of my sleeping area. Before I had even participated in one ceremony I knew that I had chosen the right place to experience ayahuasca. I don't know why, it was just a feeling I had.
    Hamilton took the time to talk to us all individually before the first ceremony, and pretty much any time after that when one of us needed to chat, whatever the reason. Partaking in an ayahuasca ceremony (let alone five) is not an easy thing to do. It can be emotionally, spiritually and physically draining. Actually, I was amazed at Hamilton and the others level of attention towards the guests. From what I could tell, there were times when it seemed that Hamilton was being pulled in 5 directions at once, yet he always made time for all of the guests and helped put them in the right frame of mind for the ceremonies. As far as the ceremonies themselves, there were a few times when I felt myself being pulled down shits creek without a you know what, and either Hamilton, Don Alberto or someone else was there for me and helped me get through it. They did this for everyone, even staying up through the night if necessary.
    I personally don't think ayahuasca is for everyone. The experience can run the gamut from blissful to terrifying. I do think that if you do decide to undergo this experience, you absolutely need to do it in an environment where you trust the people (shamans) who are conducting the ceremonies. Think about it, you're far away from home, in the middle of the jungle, drinking a powerful psychoactive substance. As far as I'm concerned, you had better trust the people who are giving it to you. Without a doubt, I trusted Hamilton and Alberto. I had an incredible, life altering experience that was made possible by their expertise and care. I like to think I'm a healthy sceptic and look at situations etc. with open eyes and an open mind. I have a pretty good bullshit meter. This experience to me was very real and I can honestly say that the Hamilton, et al. really do care about their guests and do their utmost to ensure that everyone is safe and gets the most out of the ceremonies. All I can say is I will be going back, and I wouldn't if I didn't think it was worth my time. Hope this helps.

    p.s. And you get to eat jungle rat - whoo-hooo!!!

  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Sun, May 13, 2007 - 5:53 AM
    I first read the Nat'l Geo Adventure article in late Feb. '06 (March '06 issue) and was so spiritually moved that I risked my career in banking to be there about 3 weeks after I first read the article. Truly a life changing experience for the better.

    I have been to Peru twice now with Blue Morpho for a total of 10 ceremonies and can't say enough about how professional, courteous and safe the experience has been and I'm sure will be when I return in November of this year for the third time. My two trips to Blue Morpho were about 10 months apart, the first being within the first year of thier opening the new camp 53k south of Iquitos - I never had the pleasure of the 18 hour boat ride up the Amazon to the first camp, :) There were a total of 6 of us on the first trip and 19 on the second so I have been able to see the progress of Blue Morpho from March of '06 to Jan of '07 and it was amazing. Hamilton, Alberto, Illoy, Daniel and Mimi have progressed in their abilities and the camp had grown beautifully to accomodate more guests. While there are hikes, fishing, trips up a couple river areas to explore , etc. - I go for the peace I get from the ceremonies - that's not to say they are necessarily easy experiences - everything else is a bonus. It's a beautiful place and the locals who make up the staff are friendly and courteous because they are friendly and courteous.

    I am on a list of references you can get from Jeremy if you want to speak or email more questions.

    Thanks for reading,
    John
    • Re: Ayahuasca Not For Everyone

      Sun, May 13, 2007 - 8:23 AM
      I know 2 people who took ayahuasca at ceremonies in Peru and DID NOT have any visions or effects. No matter how much they drank! Ayahuasca told one person:: "This is not the path for you." Considering so much scientific work has been done of the chemical effects of ayahuasca on the body, this is truly an amazing fact - The Goddess Ayahuasca chooses you.

      I'm rather surprised by the vulgar language here (and very poor spelling and grammar skills) but new people coming to this tribe should be aware that sometimes ayahuasca is not for them and they may be disappointed by not having the visions they expect - no one goes to the jungle expecting luxury suites. However, we do expect conversation, guidance, and an attempt to present a retreat not as a tourist hang-out.

      It is only through word-of-mouth that a retreat prospers (okay, a NG article can do wonderful things for a retreat!) A person taking a ceremony and having a bad experience affects everyone that person talks to.

      30 people at a Blue Morpho Ceremony? Who on this tribe says that is a good thing? Please explain.

      Victoria
      • Re: Ayahuasca Not For Everyone

        Fri, May 25, 2007 - 2:05 PM
        this is exactly what happened to me.

        but my lessons ended up coming from the jungle and the experiences that were set in motion once I put the intent to change out there....
    • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

      Sun, May 13, 2007 - 11:11 AM
      Just out of curiosity . . . I can't help but notice that everyone who is making a testimonial has joined tribe in the last few days, with only an exception or two has not posted their picture, and again with only an exception or two hasn't joined any other discussion groups.

      How did you all find your way here? I assume that an email blast was done by Blue Morpho asking for testimonials.

      Like I said, please stick around and participate in the various discussions both here and in other tribes. Also ayahuasca.com is an incredible resource you might want to visit.
      • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

        Sun, May 13, 2007 - 1:10 PM
        I feel that the ability to lead many people in ceremony is a good thing because it demonstrates an accordingly high level of mastery. I've worked with small and large groups, and I find that large groups enhance the experience, rather than detracting from it. Others may have different opinions - one must accumulate their own experience. Like so many others, I feel that Blue Morpho is a picture of integrity and a focal point of incredible healing energy.

        Many of us who spend time at Blue Morpho stay in touch, not only with the wisdom of the medicine but with each other. When we become aware of discussions about the organization, we let each other know. We feel honored to be able to enter the dialogue and share our experiences. I agree that we should all stay active in these types of online discussions, to help give a clearer picture to those who are seeking information.
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          Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

          Sun, May 13, 2007 - 1:50 PM
          I agree, Nicolai.

          I feel very close to every individual that was with me in the Ceremony Room. Even though they were having their own experience with Ayahuasca, i still felt their support. I feel very Blessed to have met everyone i did on that trip. They all added to the great experience.
        • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

          Sun, May 13, 2007 - 11:53 PM
          << Many of us who spend time at Blue Morpho stay in touch, not only with the wisdom of the medicine but with each other. When we become aware of discussions about the organization, we let each other know. We feel honored to be able to enter the dialogue and share our experiences. I agree that we should all stay active in these types of online discussions, to help give a clearer picture to those who are seeking information. >>

          Well, I think it certainly reflects well that people who shared this experience together at Blue Morpho continue to maintain a bond with each other. I hope that all of you will continue to participate and share here, and also at the Ayahuasca forums at www.forums.ayahuasca.com .
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        Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

        Mon, May 14, 2007 - 3:25 PM
        I've been on tribe for some time, I've been to Blue Morpho and coincidently at the same time the person who identifies herself as "Iananna" was last September. We met each other there. I feel sad for her now that she is angry, and I felt sorry for her then that her experience didn't meet her ‘expectations’. I’d admit I don't know what her intentions for the doing ayahuasca were?

        But my experience was incredible and I'll share as soon as I can.

        Just wanted you to know that I am one person who has posted on this thread, read or responded to this recent, (or past,) Blue Morpho discussion and am not a Tribe newbie. Consequently I disagree with your assumption regarding Blue Morpho. I lot of what I read so far from people who have not even been there to experience the place themselves it seem to me has turned into gossip.

        Thank you

        Mert
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    Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Sun, May 13, 2007 - 3:49 PM


    I would like to clarify my post from a couple days ago. First off, I'm sorry if I pissed people off by saying my experiences and opinions, I say things bluntly a lot of the time with little censoring, this angers a lot of people. I noticed there was a discussion on this tribe with some concerns I related to and I shared mine. I went there to stay sober from alcohol, get my life on track, and deal with problems in my life. So far it has worked, I have been sober, my life is coming together again, and I am dealing with problems in my life. I feel that has to due with my seizing power of my life. I realized no one is going to solve my problems for me and that I have to be positive and active in solving them with support from my family, I think the Universe( God) is conscious and loving and helps those who help themselves. The weird vibe I felt there was the wierd vibe I get at Alcoholics Anonymous meetings. I tried to explain what this feeling felt like to me using descriptive language as not everyone has ever been to an AA meeting, it appears to have been somewhat inflammatory. After having an ayahuasca experience I felt that the NG read sort of like "the Celestine Prophecy" or something of that nature, not a news article. I had some concerns about safety in terms of transporting people to a doctor in case of an emergency. I kind of felt like I was in the movie "The Beach" if that makes sense to anyone. I appreciate my time there and thank the staff being there.I liked the people I met there, they were nice. Despite my complaints I found it a useful experience. Over the years I've had countless experiences with drugs although I'm sober now and have been for about a year and a half. I only have had two expereinces with ayahuasca and I found them useful and perhaps in the future will use it again but I think I will go somewhere else. I like the works of Leary/Metzner/Dass and the way they handle healing with the use of entheogens, the names of psychologists who use it that way would be appreicated. So would the names of other shamans.

    We all have to walk our own paths in life and make our own decisions. I wish the best of luck to everyone in life. A lot of life is good and a lot of life is bad but we have to perservere through it and live in love( something I learned from ayahusca ;) )
    • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

      Sun, May 13, 2007 - 5:38 PM
      I feel it all depends on what you are looking for. I needed one on one care, and had specific medical and spiritual desires.
      I´m in Iquitos right now and have beed taken care of by Alan Shoemaker and his amazing wife Mariella. (soga del alma).
      After four days of flower baths and energy cleaning done by an old Peruvian woman, I attended my first ceremoni with Percy at Alan´s Maloka. Words cannot express how loving and beautiful his work is. Raised to be a curando, his brew contains many other healing plants, as he strongly believes Ayahuasca is to be medicine, for the body as well as the soul.
      The special attention one receives when in very small ceremonies has been extremely helpful for me. I have done two very healing yet oh so painful ceramonies, and tomorrow is my last one on this trip.
      I fully trust in the power of her energy, and I am sure you will all be brought to the right healer for you...
      With Love and Magick, Asa
  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Sun, May 13, 2007 - 5:51 PM
    My Blue Morpho experience in November of 2006 was incredibly positive. It was nine days of learning and healing that I could not have gotten in five years, maybe. Hamilton and all of his crew were incredible, high consciousness and supportive beings to journey with. This was my only ayahuasca experience, but I have worked with other masters in other arenas; and Hamilton blew me away. I will go again as soon as I can. Many of the people in my group are planning to return.
  • Blue Morpho is exceptional!

    Mon, May 14, 2007 - 2:48 PM
    Greetings all. I have been reading comments about Blue Morpho with interest after hearing from a fellow cosmic warrior that an active discussion was going on. I have been sitting at my computer for half an hour now writing and rewriting what I want to say about Bluemorpho. So many positive changes have occured in my life since going down there over a year and a half ago. When I think back to how I was before BM and how I am now, its hard for me to relate to the 'old me'.

    After my first visit down to BM I knew I needed to go back for as long as I could afford. I went again this winter for 2 consecutive trips and was astounded at all the changes that had occurred not only within the structure of the camp, but the spiritual growth of the apprentices and maestros. My first experience with BM consisted of only 4 guests, my second 24. I was nervous about the support that Hamilton would be able to be given to such a large group. I shared these concerns with Jeremy and Hamilton via emails and found there answers prompt, carefully thought out, and reassuring. At various times throughout the year I contacted BM and my questions were always answered quickly and with much compassion.

    My return to BM was one of the best decisions I made (another being to go down there in the first place!) I think it is a testament to the integrity and compassion of the shamans at BM how many guests return. For many people BM has become a haven of spiritual growth and support. I have kept in contact with many fellow BM guests and find the support I need as I walk a challenging and rewarding path. At no time while I was at BM did I feel like my needs were not addressed. Whenever I needed to talk to Hamilton or one of the apprentices they always had the time. Hamilton treats ayahuasca and the ceremonial house with the reverence and love that he was taught by his maestros and that he is instilling in his apprentices and guests.

    At the beginning of each session Hamilton takes the guests interested on a jungle walk to help collect and bless the tree spirits that will be a part of the ceremonies. Throughout this walk he is very open and knowledgable about all aspects of the preparation of the ayahuasca and fills the prepatory walk with various stories and helpful advice about ceremony. At many times during my trips down to BM, I sat with guests in the main house asking Hamilton questions about not only ayahuasca but his personal philosphies and ideas. Hamilton was always very honest and open in his responses. Hamilton is a very easy going, caring, loving person that is willing to address the needs of one guest seeking personal help, to a group of eager guests just wanting to listen to someone who really is connected with spirit. Hamiltons' connection with spirit is something that I aspire to have and what draws so many people to his center.

    Hamilton's presence in ceremony along with Don Alberto and the apprentices was incredible. After drinking ayahuasca with a few guests my first time, I was blown away at the intensity of communing with spirit with so many other guests. My second trip down I was with a pretty 'crazy' group of people. A lot of intense healing was going on, along with a lot of euphoric moments. Never once did Hamilton hesitate to help anyone who needed it. Many people, including myself were astounded at how much help and love was given by all the shamans, apprentices and helpers. Ayahuasca is an intense, beautiful and loving teacher. You have to work hard along with the spirits and the guidance of the shamans and the rewards are indescribable. The challenges you face in ceremony are your own and the shamans are there for you in any way you need it.

    Hamilton was always available to help anyone who needed it. Throughout my weeks down there I communicated with him in the physical moment, through dreams and through spirit, he has unconditional love and help for anyone seeking it. Questioning the integrity of this man, is in my opinion, not even a question. He walks a path of integrity, love and spirit every day. It has been a blessing to be a part of the Blue Morpho experience and one that I would not hesitate to recommend to anyone. The camp is beautiful, the jungle is incredible and the love and support from BM is immeasurable.

    Much peace and love
  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Tue, May 15, 2007 - 6:53 AM
    I do not hesitate to recommend Blue Morpho.

    I will be attending my fourth session at Blue Morpho this June (2007). This will also be my third Diet session.

    Blue Morpho is a sacred place that provides a space for people to undergo incredible and major healing and Spiritual growth and transformation. It is not a tourist place to go and play in the jungle. It is a place for serious and totally transformative Work.

    The staff at Blue Morpho are totally dedicated to creating the space for people to come and be healed and to be transformed.

    Some people are not ready for this type of personal healing, growth and transformation, so they fight it. One way they fight it is by making unfounded allegations against the people who are there to help. They do this, not realizing the true reason for their objections.

    The Subconscious and Unconscious can work that way, perhaps to protect those that aren't quite ready for major personal growth and transformation.

    The transformative and healing Work that a person does at Blue Morpho is not easy. It is Work, but well worth the effort. What else really matters?

    I will continue the Work I am doing at Blue Morpho. I do not hesitate to recommend Blue Morpho.
    posted by:
    Victoria
    Arizona

    • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

      Wed, May 16, 2007 - 6:58 AM
      I would like to give an unqualified thumbs up to Blue Morpho Tours in regards to their work in Ayahuasca Shamanism. I have been to two trips there and I truly look forward to when I'll be able to make it there again. It is very understandable that some people have questions and concerns regarding what Blue Morpho does and how they do it. So these are some of my impressions. Number one is that Hamilton Souther, the master Shaman, is one of the hardest working guys I've ever met. During ceremony he holds nothing back, is fully in control and is a true Maestro. I have always felt guarded and safe during the ceremonies. And I think that the reason the vast majority of people who trust themselves to Hamilton come away with a positive experience, is that they are responding to his level of comittment to them. Secondly, the camp that he has built is in my view just great. I love that place. It is comfortable, safe and secure, and beautiful. I must say here that Hamilton's apprentices and the locals that he employs, are hard working and do a great job of making your stay there comfortable and positive. And thirdly, I have felt there a sense of love and compassion which I believe is engendered between Hamilton and his apprentices and the others there, which to my way of thinking is a manifestation of the spirit through Ayahuasca. I am so thankful for the oppurtunity to have participated in what Blue Morpho has to offer.
      • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

        Wed, August 29, 2007 - 11:41 PM
        What did you learn in the Ayahuasca experience? Are you a different person? Why is Blue Morpho charging upwards of over $1,600 for their 9 day ceremony? That's a lot of scratch.
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    Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Wed, May 30, 2007 - 11:05 AM
    Not that this really matters to anyone but I was looking at this thread again and while I do still have some concerns, I also kind of realized from rereading and thinking about my responses that I have a pretty big fear or dislike of groups. I think that this fear got amplified by the experience while remaining unknown or justified due to negative experiences in my life and I chose to leave. I don't really know what the point of me posting this is except that I would have felt like a jerk if I hadn't after realizing that maybe some of my complaints had more to do with me than other people or Blue Morpho itself, if that makes sense. Peace
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    Blue Morpho? Big Money!

    Mon, June 9, 2008 - 4:41 AM
    Yeah, Pluma, my advice is to avoid the big-business atmosphere guaranteed to be at Blue Morpho. A bunch of neophytes lulled into a sense of phony spirituality at the Blue Morpho corporate headquarters. It reeks of cultism, just like Scientology, or say, Jimmy Swaggert. Pick any televangelist and the tell me the difference between Souther and him. The only difference is ayahuasca. Why don't you go to a real shaman like Don Solon? He lives in Iquitos, is about 90 years old and charges about $15 per ceremony. He is also very powerful. The funny thing is that these slighlty ignorant Gringoes go down there and spend thousands for a few weeks, when it is all unnecessary. That same experience could be had for less that $200, and I'm talking about many ceremonies. Forget these Gringo con-artists.
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      Re: Blue Morpho? Big Money!

      Thu, June 12, 2008 - 4:53 PM
      I think your the "drug-tourist"

      Just looking for a cheap thrill.

      • Boo
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        YOU ARE CONFUSED!!!

        Thu, June 12, 2008 - 9:04 PM
        Absolutely not! I reject all that shit. The drug tourist are the wimps who think they are having some grand experience at the Blah Morpho. You probably get your info about ayahuasca from "Blueberry". I hope that you feel safe in the phony baloney environment created by your Gringo shaman. What a scam; and you call me drug tourist. You seem like a gullible, naive type, although I am sure a very nice one. Si quieres tener una experiencia verdadera, me gustaria presentarte a Ayahuasca, pero no en el ambiente falso, lo que es creado por los Gringos avariciosos. Me gustas porque los inocentes me encantan. By the way, to say it properly, it should be" I wish I 'were' in Italy". Just a little grammar lesson for you...and it's free.
        • Re: YOU ARE CONFUSED!!!

          Fri, June 13, 2008 - 12:45 PM
          Boo, te crees inteligente porque sabes hablar castellano? Y eso te da el derecho de andar insultando a otras personas, porque estas en desacuerdo con el camino que caminan ellos? No te creas tan sabio amigo, y no hablas tan ampliamente de los gringos avariciosos, porque sean cual sean tus intenciones sigues siendo un gringo tu tambien. No creas que porque has estado en Peru un tiempo te vamos a creer cholito.....

          Te recomiendo abrir tu perspectiva, y ver que tal vez es posible que no eres dueño de la verdad, como no lo es nadie......y que tal vez la planta llama a sus peregrino con muchos telefonos, no todos iguales al tuyo....

          amor y paz hermano,

          Javier
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            Re: YOU ARE CONFUSED!!!

            Fri, June 13, 2008 - 2:58 PM
            es la mariposa mas linda de todos, wow jav nunca te visto enojar, olvida de boo, son buenas en el blue morpho? nunca has visto como el blue morpho flota como esta colgado por una cuerda o algo es MUI magico este bichito. saludo jav ,, que estas bein no te enojas hermano
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              Re: YOU ARE CONFUSED!!!

              Fri, June 13, 2008 - 3:01 PM
              hey lets watch our language around here boo boo, looks like you scared that nice person into un subscribing, dont drop out of nowhere into here spouting hateful language and whatevers, there is a cicl way that you csan say all that yousand that poor unsubscribed was just talking about a big blue butterfly called the blue morpho that is in SA.////\\\\\\ bad boy
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                cicl = civil
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                  oh and whoever you are that unsubscribed, i liked what you wrote and wish you would come hang out and write more, boo is someone who is never here normally and he smells like a troll, snot is fault everyone gets born as something, we are all very nice on shamanism usually
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                    Boo
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                    Shel, you've hurt my feelings. Now I'm a troll. I guess you're talking about the ones who live under the bridge. Actually it would be more accurate to call me Chullachaqui, a moniker more fitting to what I truly am. Why, why, oh why, do you maliciously say I'm not nice? But in truth, I do have a curmudgeonly side to me, so maybe you're not entirely wrong. But please, I have not tried to wad anyone's panties, although I had been known to give an occasional wedgie way back when. I've mellowed out. Peace and love.
          • Boo
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            JAY, NO ESTES CONFUNDIDO, MI AMIGUITO.

            Fri, June 13, 2008 - 6:01 PM
            No me creo inteligente por ser capaz hablar castellano, porque hay bastante bobos quienes hablan ese idioma, hasta los retrasados. Solamente tengo advertencia del capitalismo que se mete en el espiritualismo. Pero puedo ver que seas un chico inteligente aunque seas bien inocente. Que si, soy El Cholito, El Serranito con el aviso. Escuchame hermanito, mi perspectivo es mucho mas amplio que el tuyo, pero es a causa del edad. Yo estaba en El Peru antes de que fueras nacido mi amiguito. ?Duenyo de la verdad? nunca dije eso, solamente que puedo sumir uno mas uno y llegar a dos. ? A proposito, eres Catolico? Me lo pareces. VAMOS A LA SELVA PARA VERDADERAMENTE CONOCER AYAHUASCA, NO AL ALBERGUE CON TAL COMODIDAD.
            • Re: JAY, NO ESTES CONFUNDIDO, MI AMIGUITO.

              Sat, June 14, 2008 - 8:32 AM
              "Pero puedo ver que seas un chico inteligente aunque seas bien inocente. Que si, soy El Cholito, El Serranito con el aviso. Escuchame hermanito, mi perspectivo es mucho mas amplio que el tuyo, pero es a causa del edad. Yo estaba en El Peru antes de que fueras nacido mi amiguito. ?Duenyo de la verdad? nunca dije eso, solamente que puedo sumir uno mas uno y llegar a dos. ? A proposito, eres Catolico? Me lo pareces."

              Tus proyecciones te delatan hermano, a pesar de tu edad (y quizas a raiz de). Inocente, yo? Ojala! Me encantaria poder mantener algun sentido de inocencia hasta el dia que me muera, nunca creer que ya he llegado, porque el camino siempre sigue. Con que tu perspectiva es mas amplia que la mia? Segun veo yo, tu ya has decretado que el Blue Morpho es malo, y por ende has eliminado esa posibilidad en tu mente. En cambio yo creo que puede ser malo, bueno, malo y bueno, ni malo ni bueno, y totalmente irrelevante. Asi que dime tu cual perspectiva incluye mas posibilidades? Conque tu estabas en Peru antes de que yo naciera eh? Hermano, yo soy Chileno. Yo soy Latino. Me familia fundo este pais. Tengo historia en Chile, Peru, y Argentina. Mi sangre ES la sangre de esta tierra. Aqui mi familia ha nacido, amado, trabajado y muerto por varios siglos ya. Tu eres un Dude from Alabama, y siempre lo seras. Te creeras muy Cholito hermano, pero tu tierra te llama.

              Yo? Catolico? :)

              Boo, sigue trabajando amigo, te deseo mucho amor, suerte, y compasion en tu camino.

              Y no es Jay, es Jav, mi sobrenombre de cuando vivia en EE.UU. ya que los gringos no saben pronunciar muy bien el castellano. Me llamo Javier. Y tu Boo? Cual es tu nombre que te dio tu Padre y Madre?
              • Boo
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                Javier, no trataba de ofenderte hermanito. Solamente quiero que la gente abra los ojos, y que sepan separar el espiritu del Capitalismo. Pero yo se que es imposible que ellos de los paises Capitalisticos hagan eso. Hermanito, asi es la vida ?eh? Yo...no he echado raices in ningun lugar material; soy vagabundo del mundo, con nisiquiera un raicito en ningun lugar excepto la selvita.

                Tu familia fundo a un pais. !Impresionante! Ojala que Uds. no particparan en la matanza de los indigenas. ! Que si, eres un chico muy importante! Por eso como manda el costumbre de tu region, los pobres no puedan hablarles con autoridad a los ricos. Asi es, escrito en piedra. Mil disculpas. No quiero fingirme como si fuera un rico, porque como tu y yo ya sabemos, Uds. ricos tienes sus manos bien metidos alrededor las gargantas de nosotros humildes. Y El Capitalismo es la arma de Uds. ?Verdad?

                Y yo, yo soy de raices humildes, pobrezas de una choza de carton. Mi mama y papa me dieron el nombre de carinyo Basta. Sin embargo en ocasiones formales se me dirigian con mi nombre de bautismo: Bastardo. Prefiero Basta o Bastito.

                Tal vez estabas alla en el momento en que estaba yo, en Ayacucho. Habia un Senyor quien daba un discurso unas manzanas de la plaza en aire fresco. Se llama Abimael Guzman, y no me gustaba lo que estuviera diciendo el. Me daba miedo. Salio de la funcion de inmediato, y Bastito se escondia en el rincon de su domocilio. ?Recuerdas eso? Tal vez no.

                Te preguntaba sobre Catolicismo porque ellos tambien siguen como ciegos en el camino espiritual, nunca cuestionando a la iglesia o a la gente de la iglesia y es cierto no al Papa. Y yo querria que me recomendaras un sarcedote de confianza.

                Gracias por bendecirme, Senyor Hermanito Rico.





  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Sat, October 18, 2008 - 9:31 AM
    I think it is important here not to go to extremes. In the middle we'll find the truth. Is Hamilton and Blue Morpho an inauthentic rip-off? no. Is he a god hero? no. He is just a guy, an experienced and caring shaman, who is doing his best to run a center and help people. As blue morpho goes through growing pains, experiences like the one lananna and others had are bound to happen. When you've got a lot of expectation, and rightly so, and your experience is lacking then it is understandable to get annoyed. Perhaps in that time Hamilton was distracted, stressed, busy, who knows, he missed the mark a bit. We have to make sure we don't confuse ayahuasca shamans with enlightened gurus. they are not. Ayahuasca is the guru, and the shaman is like a cosmic tour-guide. In my opinion blue morpho is an excellent place, but it needs to heed these warning signs and keep things personal and humble. Hamilton has a tough job to try to run a center to accommodate the growing interest in ayahuasca and still keep things personal. As far as visitors are concerned, ayahuasca is the real teacher, so maybe the personal connection with Hamilton is not all that vital. Hope this helps.
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    I been to Bluemorpho 4 times in 2.5 years.

    Mon, October 20, 2008 - 9:25 AM
    I haven't been with other maestros. Some BM highlights:
    - Hamilton spends lots of time with the guests and gives personalized attention - as much as you need.
    - We have quite indepth discussions on spiritual subject matters that will further support your Aya understanding and growth. Having a westen educated maestro of Hamilton's caliber is exceptional.
    - The BM maestros and apprenticices are very mature and powerfully developed in the spirits. This is one of the qualitative benefits of BM, I believe.
    - Price wise, it may be one of the higher ones in the region - but the camp, facilities and food are quite good. And, I think they are one of the longest running tours by now, at least in terms of "full service".
    - Due to their success, it may feel somewhat crowded at times - but then demand an experience to get your full money's worth and what you came for.
    - Have fun. There is lots of real love there.


  • Re: Blue Morpho experiences?

    Tue, December 2, 2008 - 4:50 PM
    Not to be redundant but I though I would post this here for those looking for reviews of Blue Morpho Tours although I originally posted it in response to another thread.

    Kindly,

    David

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    I highly recommend Blue Morpho.

    I just returned from a BM tour and was quite astounded at the level of professionalism and the loving attention given to everyone in our group. I've sat with three other shamans (multiple times with each) but never in such a supportive environment. I hear some folks stating that they don't want to pay for the "westernized" experience and for first-timers I would suggest otherwise. In fact I have found that as a westerner I never really fully understood the ayahuasca ceremony until I sat with Hamilton and Don Alberto.

    As a non-fluent Spanish speaker I found there was a huge language barrier to understanding the entire process when sitting with Spanish only speaking shamans. Hamilton goes though a great deal of time, energy and effort to impart a real understanding of shamanistic philosophy which I had never found from any other source. Also, I had never felt totally safe to let it all out. When the shit hit the fan I was extremely grateful to have the support of Hamilton, Don Alberto, a trained staff and thoughtful facilities to support me. I've sat with a wonderful shaman on the floor of a small Iquitos bedroom without a bucket while never actually knowing where the bathrooms is and had and incredible and wonderful experience. And sure, it was much cheaper. But to be honest, I never truly understood what was possible in ceremony and by having the western support network I took my experience to a much deeper level.

    The experience at BM is indeed available to westerners but the presence of Don Alberto is anything but western. That man is pure jungle love incarnate and anybody who has ever sat with him will most likely confirm. And I cant say enough of the beautiful icaros sung by Mimi.

    I'm not saying that BM is the only place to find this type of support but it is one place and a great place at that and I would suggest for a first-timer that you find a place that caters to westerners and then venture out after that. I feel strongly that there really are no deals for beginners in this area and you don't want to end up with a bad first experience so spend a little more and feel safe and supported in the process wither it is at Blue Morpho or another such place.

    Both Don Alberto and Hamilton are great loving shamans and the Blue Morpho staff and facilities are simply splendid.


    David

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