I had a really wild dream last night.
I had a dream that a paramilitary group in south america was forcing people to drink ayahuasca under threat of violence, they charged for it and the money was used to support war, and after they did they marked you with their moto a symbol. the name of the group was a name of an actual ayahausca retailer from peru that i know of... but wont mention the name because its just symbolic really.
what this got me thinking about even more and more when i woke up was the oil dollars spent when we import ayahausca... every time we spend a dollar on oil it supports the war in iraq, every time we participate in global economy we support the oil economy. I woke up thinking about local foods and medicine as being a form of eco as well as anti-war activism.
over the years ive really been trying to integrate lessons learned from ayahausca and other medicines and live a more ethical life... not supporting the oil dollar really means alot these days when you look at it.
i know ive brought these topics up before... but i want to talk a bit about some of the ideas that have come to me that are sollution focused... so that people can receive the medicines they need with out supporting violence in iraq, and large ecological and social foot prints.
so what are the alternatives?
I would like to think that ayahausca is special enough of a medicine that people would attempt to treat it with respect as well as integrate the lessons they learn from it by living in a responsible and ethical way, meaning earth care and people care in how they come by drinking ayahuasca.
currently there are goodly amounts of ayahausca being grown in hawaii and hawaian virdis is superior from what i hear in alkaloid content due to the soil of hawaii being so good.
a vision i received was regional supply networks of people dedicated to getting the medicine out sustianably with earth care and people care as a focus biofuel driven vehicle's and sail power to and from the west coast to the islands would be possible if people were to dedicate themselves to it. refusing to buy from the internet suppliers and instead seeking responsible regional trade net works would be the responsibility of the people drinking and seeking the medicine.
another possibility is working with plants that can be grown or also regionally and sustainably harvested and transported over short distances. creating regional net works with analog plants based on trade and not profiteering on sacred medicine no matter the ecological and social impacts would bring a sense of meaning as well as a feeling of fulfilling our responsibility to the earth and her children.
some of the analog plants can be grown in our areas at least in a green house. making the decision to grow instead of consume and to share the abundance in a good way to others with out concern for profit would assist a great deal of people. people willing to take on this role in supplying the medicines needed take on a sacred role, and would require support and reciprocity.
what i am speaking of is intigrating sustianability and ethics into current ayahausca consumption in a way that creates a culture of the sacred revoling around how we obtain it in the first place.
wildcrafters in new mexico and arizona where syrian rue grows as an invasive species can be local suppliers to transregional networks. harvesters of mimosa from mexico can do the same. great basin harvesters of demanthus or bundle flower can either grow or wild craft the plants or harvest seed and spread it to those that need it in other areas... other plants can be discovered and cultivated in other regions which can serve as analogs and in areas where they cannot be grown to supply the demand eco fueled vehicals can be utilized by people to move the medicines to where they need to go.... keeping in mind that the further they come from the source the more that must be reciprocated.
in the USA alone we have adequate ayahausca analogs which grow in large quantities and can be harvested ethicaly and responsibly which have their own uniqueness yet similar effects and healing as the plants in the amazon. consuming local ayahausca analogs also helps cultivate a sacred culture and new ways and associations with the plants of north america. learning new medicine ways directly from the plants themselves.
i would love it if people who believe in the sacred nature of these medicines saw their sacred responsibility and were inspired to dedicate themselves to supplying these medicines responsibly. as with the case of local food networks the responsibility is in the hands of the people. if there is a need from the people to only consume plant medicines that are sustianably transported and harvested and grown then people will be supported in doing so.
I would support people willing to do this by only working with plants provided to me by them... would any one else?
I had a dream that a paramilitary group in south america was forcing people to drink ayahuasca under threat of violence, they charged for it and the money was used to support war, and after they did they marked you with their moto a symbol. the name of the group was a name of an actual ayahausca retailer from peru that i know of... but wont mention the name because its just symbolic really.
what this got me thinking about even more and more when i woke up was the oil dollars spent when we import ayahausca... every time we spend a dollar on oil it supports the war in iraq, every time we participate in global economy we support the oil economy. I woke up thinking about local foods and medicine as being a form of eco as well as anti-war activism.
over the years ive really been trying to integrate lessons learned from ayahausca and other medicines and live a more ethical life... not supporting the oil dollar really means alot these days when you look at it.
i know ive brought these topics up before... but i want to talk a bit about some of the ideas that have come to me that are sollution focused... so that people can receive the medicines they need with out supporting violence in iraq, and large ecological and social foot prints.
so what are the alternatives?
I would like to think that ayahausca is special enough of a medicine that people would attempt to treat it with respect as well as integrate the lessons they learn from it by living in a responsible and ethical way, meaning earth care and people care in how they come by drinking ayahuasca.
currently there are goodly amounts of ayahausca being grown in hawaii and hawaian virdis is superior from what i hear in alkaloid content due to the soil of hawaii being so good.
a vision i received was regional supply networks of people dedicated to getting the medicine out sustianably with earth care and people care as a focus biofuel driven vehicle's and sail power to and from the west coast to the islands would be possible if people were to dedicate themselves to it. refusing to buy from the internet suppliers and instead seeking responsible regional trade net works would be the responsibility of the people drinking and seeking the medicine.
another possibility is working with plants that can be grown or also regionally and sustainably harvested and transported over short distances. creating regional net works with analog plants based on trade and not profiteering on sacred medicine no matter the ecological and social impacts would bring a sense of meaning as well as a feeling of fulfilling our responsibility to the earth and her children.
some of the analog plants can be grown in our areas at least in a green house. making the decision to grow instead of consume and to share the abundance in a good way to others with out concern for profit would assist a great deal of people. people willing to take on this role in supplying the medicines needed take on a sacred role, and would require support and reciprocity.
what i am speaking of is intigrating sustianability and ethics into current ayahausca consumption in a way that creates a culture of the sacred revoling around how we obtain it in the first place.
wildcrafters in new mexico and arizona where syrian rue grows as an invasive species can be local suppliers to transregional networks. harvesters of mimosa from mexico can do the same. great basin harvesters of demanthus or bundle flower can either grow or wild craft the plants or harvest seed and spread it to those that need it in other areas... other plants can be discovered and cultivated in other regions which can serve as analogs and in areas where they cannot be grown to supply the demand eco fueled vehicals can be utilized by people to move the medicines to where they need to go.... keeping in mind that the further they come from the source the more that must be reciprocated.
in the USA alone we have adequate ayahausca analogs which grow in large quantities and can be harvested ethicaly and responsibly which have their own uniqueness yet similar effects and healing as the plants in the amazon. consuming local ayahausca analogs also helps cultivate a sacred culture and new ways and associations with the plants of north america. learning new medicine ways directly from the plants themselves.
i would love it if people who believe in the sacred nature of these medicines saw their sacred responsibility and were inspired to dedicate themselves to supplying these medicines responsibly. as with the case of local food networks the responsibility is in the hands of the people. if there is a need from the people to only consume plant medicines that are sustianably transported and harvested and grown then people will be supported in doing so.
I would support people willing to do this by only working with plants provided to me by them... would any one else?
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Re: crazy dream from a crazy dreamer
Thu, May 8, 2008 - 5:07 PMgreat post LLB.
"what i am speaking of is integrating sustainability and ethics into current ayahausca consumption in a way that creates a culture of the sacred revolving around how we obtain it in the first place."
just some thoughts...
It's almost like you'd need a network of people who were like minded about both sustainability and the sacred nature of these medicines.
If such a group existed and I heard about them how would I contact them to participate? I imagine they'd want to screen me first. Am I a narc, a drug dealer, someone who just wants to "party"? It seems like they'd want to be able to check me out. If nobody was in my area I'd need to travel to them, or a representative somewhere and be given a once over. If I was serious I'd be OK with that.
It seems like developing a core group to work out the ethics and how the network would function would be important.
I'd like to be able to trade wild crafted plant medicine from the PNW with others who treated it with the same ethics and in a sacred context.
I'd want to know who they were though.
Maybe a Pacific Northwest gathering is in order and after that we could reach out elsewhere afterward.
Did I say "we",.......whoops.... I started having this crazy dream.... -
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Thu, May 8, 2008 - 8:42 PM"It's almost like you'd need a network of people who were like minded about both sustainability and the sacred nature of these medicines. "
you definitely would.
"If such a group existed and I heard about them how would I contact them to participate?"
at this point there are people who exist that are doing somthing like this... i would put a prayer out and hold the intention on meeting them.
"If such a group existed and I heard about them how would I contact them to participate? I imagine they'd want to screen me first. Am I a narc, a drug dealer, someone who just wants to "party"? It seems like they'd want to be able to check me out. If nobody was in my area I'd need to travel to them, or a representative somewhere and be given a once over. If I was serious I'd be OK with that. "
for the most part im just talking about the plants themselves which are totally legal... so that would not be a problem really.
"I'd like to be able to trade wild crafted plant medicine from the PNW with others who treated it with the same ethics and in a sacred context.
I'd want to know who they were though. "
i would think that networking through tribes and making connections with people to do this would be possible.
"Maybe a Pacific Northwest gathering is in order and after that we could reach out elsewhere afterward. "
this would be a good idea if people where interested...
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Re: crazy dream from a crazy dreamer
Fri, May 9, 2008 - 2:31 AMwow sound post
nice connections from your dream. i love it when we are able of connecting these dots.
i think it's good we remember that sacred medicine is sacred and the more sacred it is the more of a medicine it is too. the more sacred our preparation and intention towards it is, the greater the healing becomes. so using our conscious intent from the start of our sacred union with any medicine - which is basically from the first thought - will only create a more wholesome interaction with the medicine.
keep up the dreamzzzzzzzzzzz and keep creating the good realitiezzzzzzzzz :)
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Re: crazy dream from a crazy dreamer
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 6:01 AMhey lets call it earth ......first? where is the portal i want to join immediatly -
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Re: crazy dream from a crazy dreamer
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 9:59 AMlol...
or pachamama first eh?
heh... well who has a sail boat?
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Re: crazy dream from a crazy dreamer
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 2:16 PMMuch to consider - thanks for posting.
If you don't mind, LLB, I'm going to pass this on and see what kind of response it generates. Seems like some folks I know are already very much on this wavelength. -
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 3:44 PMThanks for this post LLB. It got me talking with some folks here and the idea it seems is sort of organically taking shape. I found a couple of folks into the idea of sharing plants and knowledge. It's helped me meet some people right in my area. -
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 4:22 PMreally good to hear guys...
i know people who lived on maui who said the vine grew on their property like a weed... and they went to mainland and just passed it out.
some of these people also happened to drive biodeisle vehicals they kinda inspired me...
people could very possibly dedicate themselves and their entire lives just to the trasnport of this medicine... it could be considered by people to be a sacred role as important as a shaman in some respects. a "Medicine carrier" who walks lightly on the earth to mend the land and people... an inspiring thought.
if people no longer supported the Ecommerce of ayahuasca and instead supported these people they would be able to do this work sustainably and create a culture based on healing.
its not just limited to the vine either... but to the wild crafting or cultivation of other plants such as bundle flower in the midwest and syrian rue in the south west... ethical harvesting and transportation of the raw plants to communities that need them could be a life path for people as long as communities supported them. -
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Sat, May 10, 2008 - 4:45 PMit could be run like CSA all ready are.
for those that dont know... CSA are community supported agriculture. which usually is local produce sent out with a catalog. people get it once a week or so, a big box of veggies eggs milk ect...
some thing could be done like this... an ayahausca or ayahuasca analog CSA. an annual route could be planned out by the "medicine carrier" and people ordering the plants order in bulk for perhaps biannual ordering... they would recipricate econimicly for the plants, the transport and the work put into growing or harvesting them, and feed and house the "medicine carrier" and perhaps have ceremony to honor the arrival of the plants.
this would be a working method for doing this... and based on CSAs but long distance... with also a completely sustianability focus on transport.
enitre communites could pool resources to get the medicine they need.
this coudl work and be an alternative to our current world destrying practices used for getting the medicine.
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Re: crazy dream from a crazy dreamer
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 4:58 PMI had a dream that a transnational military group based in the U.S. was prohibiting people from drinking ayahuasca under the threat of violence. They charged wealthy church organizers millions of dollars in legal fees and the money was used to support the many wars on mind and body and they marked people with a UPC. I can't wait to wake up :) -
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Re: crazy dream from a crazy dreamer
Sat, May 10, 2008 - 7:01 PMthat aint a dream bro thats waking life...
and see thats what i mean... why feed the oil driven monster with oil dollars spent on ayahausca?
ive been racking my brains for years trying to figure out a way to avoid this reality of oil consumption as nessecary for the world to get ayahuasca...
ayahuasca may be illegal to obtain and drink in a tea form... but as it is today the plants are still legal to obtain and brewing it up in your own home... well whos the wiser?
after all these years i cant recall to many if any real problems comeing from people doing this as far as legality is concerned... the larger churchs excluded who were very public about it all.
this would work and is an alternative, it can be done.
growers in hawaii even peru and mexico, and wild crafters can legally import plants and a sustainable CSA program with its own delivery service can be implemented. A web page can be made with memberships based on donations to keep it going. the size of the donation would indicate how much vine or other plant materials one will acquire. because its based on donation, the ayahuasca is then not a commerce item. its not being bought and sold but is free. the donation would be given to support the work of spreading the medicne and supporting the people dedicated to doing so.
the web page would list current crops and harvests and availability of specific plants and times of delivery to donating members.
no laws would be broken as the plants are only sold for botanical identification and collection.
the people responsible with the delivery of the plants would also be volunteers who lived off of the donations. people who love to travel... sailors and those who love to travel the country seeing good people along the way.
I know this could work... and i have not seen one single person so far come up with a sustainable way for ayahausca and ayahuasca analogs to be brought to peoples lives sustianably. this could really work....
i think its time to start walking the talk and intigrateing the healing message of the plants, and this could be a way to do it... no longer at the expsense of others.
if we want to wake up from the nightmare that we are currently living in and heal the self inflicted wounds of living in the consumer driven culture we have to chaneg the way we do things, and stop feeding the monster.
this is a way we could do that.
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